Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

[Supreme_Bananas]

So I recently faced this guy, apparently he's one of the top ranked UT players

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As you can see in the video, all he ever does is walk forward holding block -> 1-2-body kick. It's predictable but I just can't avoid it, and parrying is risky because I'm not used to doing it, and he either does the 1-2 to the head or the body. I can't even hit him with a body kick first because the 1-2 just blows right through it, and I can't backdash it in time either. The only reason I won is because of takedowns, and even then it's a split.

Any tips vs. these kinds of players?

[Dave_S]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

I'd say practice parrying. I'm gonna go hide now.

[JustBlazeM8]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

Eat those strikes with your block, or make him miss. If he misses a kick, do that takedown. He'll eventually know better. Ta1 is a cool dude though.

[Haz____]

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God I hate the Lead Body Kick. Everyone throws this way too much. It's so goofy.

But it hit stuns like crazy, and with the 1-2s, is just crazy powerful...


I seriously feel like the entire "high level" striking meta is Lead Body kicks, random high-low 1-2s, and then mix in a random left or right Kick. Rinse. Repeat. The striking is so Arcadey its cringey sometimes.

Oi Vey.

[WarMMA]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

God I hate the Lead Body Kick. Everyone throws this way too much. It's so goofy.

But it hit stuns like crazy, and with the 1-2s, is just crazy powerful...


I seriously feel like the entire "high level" striking meta is Lead Body kicks, random high-low 1-2s, and then mix in a random left or right Kick. Rinse. Repeat. The striking is so Arcadey its cringey sometimes.

Oi Vey.

Yup it's defintiely cringe worthy most times. I can't stand it tbh. Hopefully GPD saves us from this bad representation of how real striking is in mma. It's definitely not all about combos and parrying.

[Supreme_Bananas]

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I'd say practice parrying. I'm gonna go hide now.

I understand that this may be the only option even though I hate parries, but because he mixes up high/low it's harder to do than I thought

[zeric]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

God I hate the Lead Body Kick. Everyone throws this way too much. It's so goofy.

But it hit stuns like crazy, and with the 1-2s, is just crazy powerful...


I seriously feel like the entire "high level" striking meta is Lead Body kicks, random high-low 1-2s, and then mix in a random left or right Kick. Rinse. Repeat. The striking is so Arcadey its cringey sometimes.

Oi Vey.

And if you manage to be successful with movement and counter striking you get berated with messages calling you a runner and how its soo unrealistic.... So annoying lol

[Dave_S]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

I understand that this may be the only option even though I hate parries, but because he mixes up high/low it's harder to do than I thought

yeah, I tend to pick up on patterns and if my opponent is being random I concentrate on head parry.

A head punch parry followed up by a Dominick Cruz style superman jab thing is petty potent.

That dude looks good enough were with that style it will be difficult to beat. I don't play ultimate team but if I did and played against someone like that I would set up some countering perks maybe. Or just go to ground for kneebar reversal or heelhook.

[WarMMA]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

Back on topic, this guy plays just like most everyone else. The 1-2 combo followed by the high/low mix up kick. Maintaining good distance is the first key against these guys. 2nd, you don't wanna be in the pocket long...especially if they have the power strikes and you don't. Throw your strikes and get out of there prepared to counter. When they get in on you and start opening up with the combo, block the first few strikes and then backdash. They usually start with the 1-2, so once you block that 1-2, backdash right away and be ready to punish. The reason you get caught so often is cuz you stay there in the pocket too long. After they throw the 1-2 your still there to get tagged with the body/head mix up most times.

[Supreme_Bananas]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

Back on topic, this guy plays just like most everyone else. The 1-2 combo followed by the high/low mix up kick. Maintaining good distance is the first key against these guys. 2nd, you don't wanna be in the pocket long...especially if they have the power strikes and you don't. Throw your strikes and get out of there prepared to counter. When they get in on you and start opening up with the combo, block the first few strikes and then backdash. They usually start with the 1-2, so once you block that 1-2, backdash right away and be ready to punish. The reason you get caught so often is cuz you stay there in the pocket too long. After they throw the 1-2 your still there to get tagged with the body/head mix up most times.

I tried to keep my distance, hence you see me backing off without holding block to increase movement speed, but he's able to just chase me down. I still have trouble performing well-timed backdashes. I'll try to do that after the 1-2 now, let's see if that helps to evade the body kick

[Evil97]

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That guy was going 1-body kick-uppercut-head kick more than he was doing a 1-2-body kick. You could have been parrying that body kick. Or just blocking and back swaying that head kick for a takedown. Or you can do what I like to do, which is stand right in his face and spam 1-2-1-2-1-2. That body kick wouldn't have come into play until he started slowing down and defending in some way.

[Donnie_Brasco_FR]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

2 choice for me :
* Or you use footwork and management distance to make miss him in order to have a stamina advantage later

* Or If you have a striker or well rounded fighter,
Dont back up, stay in front of him and show him you are ready for the war.
He is agressive cause you back up, use in majority your boxe at Short distance and all the defensive tools. (sway, parry, small sidestep...)

If you stay in front of him and Answer for blows, He will doubt and normally play smartly with head instead of throwing only combos like a robot.
This UT mode looks like to be a "cyborg fight" mode when i see certain UT fights.

An old Ea Ufc1 footage where i(Khabib) stay in front of a guy who was reputed to be 1 of the best pressure player(3500W-55L).

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[WarMMA]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

I tried to keep my distance, hence you see me backing off without holding block to increase movement speed, but he's able to just chase me down. I still have trouble performing well-timed backdashes. I'll try to do that after the 1-2 now, let's see if that helps to evade the body kick

Yh try that. Remember he's a combo player and all he's try to do is load up the multiplier, so the way you time your backdashes is after his first few strikes. The only way his body kick is buffed is if he throws at least 2 strikes. Once you see the 1-2, dash back and be ready to counter. You can counter with strikes or td attempts, as you seem better on the ground.

[Supreme_Bananas]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

Yh try that. Remember he's a combo player and all he's try to do is load up the multiplier, so the way you time your backdashes is after his first few strikes. The only way his body kick is buffed is if he throws at least 2 strikes. Once you see the 1-2, dash back and be ready to counter. You can counter with strikes or td attempts, as you seem better on the ground.

The entire reason I had to improve my ground game was because I got outstruck by 9 out of 10 players haha

[fishingtime]

Re: Help vs. ultra-aggressive strikers

God I hate the Lead Body Kick. Everyone throws this way too much. It's so goofy.

But it hit stuns like crazy, and with the 1-2s, is just crazy powerful...


I seriously feel like the entire "high level" striking meta is Lead Body kicks, random high-low 1-2s, and then mix in a random left or right Kick. Rinse. Repeat. The striking is so Arcadey its cringey sometimes.

Oi Vey.

This is the only real problem with the striking. For the most part anyways. These combos are used in high level play over and over. You can't really stop that. People will use the most effective combo. No matter what it turns out to be. That front kick to the face is effective, so people use it. Not very realistic, but effective. That is always how these games will gravitate.

The striking isn't all that bad, just in the higher levels. Where people take it.