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  • Housh123
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1173

    #1

    Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

    What should the IDEAL 3 point percentage be on 2k for people with the following ratings?


    60
    70
    80
    90
    99




    For reference in real life:


    30% and under is horrible and your coach probably hates you for even attempting a 3.


    36-38% You can hit when open but still aren't a consistent threat.


    39-45% for the most part don't leave them open.


    45-52% Snipers. You are a top 10 best all time 3 point shooter percentage wise. Leaving you open is flat out STUPID.


    54% You have officially become the greatest 3 point shooter percentage wise of all time.


    anything above 54% no one in NBA history has ever done this. You are a 3pt GOD.


    So now lets revisit the question. What % should players with these rating shoot to make the game BALANCED and FAIR. Ill give my opinions as we go.


    50 and under You shouldn't be able to hit ANY 3s period. Your pure trash. Like your jumper is so bad that you should hit the side of the backboard shooting from the top of the key somehow. Shooting 3s with this rating in MyCareer should literally get you benched. You should have your shoot button disabled in park for life. You shouldn't shoot over 15% from 3 in any given season


    60 you are still utterly trash and you should probably still get benched but maybe if you cross your fingers and pray to whatever god you pray to the 3 will go in. You should never shoot above 25% in any given season.


    70 you have either a good rotation or form but you just are missing something that makes it consistent. You can hit wide open but anything other than wide open is going to be difficult for you. Your coach likes to see you shoot wide open but nothing else. You should probably never shoot above 32% from 3 ever.

    80 rating means you are fairly consistent and shouldn't be left open. You worked really hard on your form and shoot good shots. You are fairly consistent but you still need to be near wide open to hit consistently. You shouldn't shoot over 45% in any season.


    90 rating means you are a cold hombre. You are a sniper wide open and you are very experienced with shooting in the faces of defenders. Your consistency sets you apart from others. You should never shoot higher than 54% in a season.


    99 rating means you are one of the GOATs of shooting. Seeing as this is a sim basketball game and no one has ever shot above 54%. You should never shoot over 60% from 3 in any given season. That leaves you room to become the GOAT shooter but also remains at least fairly balanced and realistic.




    Would anybody be happy with these percentages being carried over to park and Pro AM? Do you guys just flat out think they suck?


    If you noticed the percentage gap between 70 rated players and 80 rated players is noticeably large compared to the others. I did that on purpose as to weed out all the guys who upgrade their shot just far enough to where they know they'll hit consistently. In 2k you can hit consistent 3s at a 60 rating. I believe your shot shouldn't fall with ANY consistency until you hit an 80 rating. That would stop all these lockdowns and big men from upgrading their 3 and make the game more balanced.


    P.S. I want some honest feedback on this. Because when Mike Wang made a post on Twitter describing shooting changes I saw a lot of dudes on there saying that they should shoot 100% if they are wide open in Pro Am and Park. If you have rationale for that then id like to hear it, because no one on Twitter responded to me and explained why they felt that way.
    Last edited by Housh123; 05-30-2017, 04:18 PM.
  • tatejuan
    Just started!
    • Oct 2016
    • 4

    #2
    Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

    I agree with you man, that would be great!

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    • E The Rhymer
      Pro
      • Aug 2015
      • 923

      #3
      Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

      lol anything is better than now where a 50 and high school 1 means you need to be defended like Ray Allen and are a threat to not miss once.


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      • de_jesus
        Pro
        • Sep 2015
        • 527

        #4
        Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

        If a guy shoots 36-38% from behind the arc, he's a dangerous shooter. But I agree with the direction you're heading in. I think 80 should be in that 35-38% range, amd 90% should be 45% because that is godly, and 99 should be north of 54%

        Oh, and I assume this is all uncontested percentages

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        • BA2929
          The Designated Hitter
          • Jul 2008
          • 3342

          #5
          Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

          Originally posted by Housh123
          50 and under You shouldn't be able to hit ANY 3s period. Your pure trash. Like your jumper is so bad that you should hit the side of the backboard shooting from the top of the key somehow. Shooting 3s with this rating in MyCareer should literally get you benched. You should have your shoot button disabled in park for life. You shouldn't shoot over 15% from 3 in any given season
          So which is it? Not make any 3's or only make <15%?
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          • Thrustie
            Pro
            • Sep 2016
            • 764

            #6
            Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

            I agree for offline and pro-am. I wouldn't mind if park was slightly higher. Just because it's easier to get to the rim in park. So if 3s were too low, no one would set up plays to get open looks on the perimeter. Not like it is now where every open look is automatic practically though.

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            • E The Rhymer
              Pro
              • Aug 2015
              • 923

              #7
              Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

              Originally posted by Thrustie
              I agree for offline and pro-am. I wouldn't mind if park was slightly higher. Just because it's easier to get to the rim in park. So if 3s were too low, no one would set up plays to get open looks on the perimeter. Not like it is now where every open look is automatic practically though.


              Right now 3s are automatic and guys will stop passing to you if take a 2 over a 3 and guys won't pass to you to begin with if you can't shoot


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              • Thrustie
                Pro
                • Sep 2016
                • 764

                #8
                Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                Originally posted by E The Rhymer
                Right now 3s are automatic and guys will stop passing to you if take a 2 over a 3 and guys won't pass to you to begin with if you can't shoot


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                Yeah I agree. 3s are tuned way too high. I often play with guys who will catch my outlet pass on a break and dribble out to the 3 line to shoot because it's so reliable. I can be standing under the hoop alone for the full 3 count and a lot of times my teammates will ignore me while they hunt for 3s.

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                • E The Rhymer
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 923

                  #9
                  Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                  Originally posted by Thrustie
                  I can be standing under the hoop alone for the full 3 count and a lot of times my teammates will ignore me while they hunt for 3s.

                  This I pretty much The main source of my turnovers.


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                  • DakkoN
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 5611

                    #10
                    Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                    99 rating should not be based on overall 3 point percentage, because overall 3 point percentage in real life takes into account contested shots, end of quarter full court heaves, time winding down quick shots etc.. In the game the majority of 3's that are taken are uncontested catch and shoots.. Anything else is usually passed out of the shot if it's looking like it's going to be contested..

                    The rating scale should be based on the advanced shooting numbers found on sites that lists shot percentage depending on how close the nearest defender is that shows how shot percentages vary from being wide open vs not being open. I don't think it makes sense to just say "oh, this person shoots xx% from 3, let's give them this rating", when there's much more to it like difficulty of shot, catch and shoot vs creating your own shot, among other things.. Obviously if someone like Steph Curry could stand in a corner the entire game and get kick outs and ONLY shoot those, his shot percentage for the season would be much higher, so putting him on the same scale as say, Richard Jefferson, seems silly.
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                    • Housh123
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1173

                      #11
                      Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                      Oh yeah guys I forgot to mention this isn't only wide open shots



                      This is what your percentage should hover around from ALL 3 PT shots combined at the end of a season.

                      If I put wide open only in the beginning of the post I'm sorry but I don't think I did


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                      • ph33
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 3261

                        #12
                        Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                        This game has truly twisted people around (Not calling out anyone here, obviously)

                        It's just, people feel obligated to make a wide open shot. And yes, I want to reward people who get wide open shots. But it's dumb.

                        It's a hard balance to strike because there IS a lot of bad defense being played, people get hot, but shooting 50% from three in this game gets people riled up.

                        I wish it'd go in the direction you stated. But I doubt it.

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                        • FixEverything2k
                          Pro
                          • May 2016
                          • 577

                          #13
                          Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                          Originally posted by BA2929
                          So which is it? Not make any 3's or only make <15%?
                          Even Shaq would score some threes if he takes enough, these include halfcourt shots and full court shots and last second toss ups. This just means you shouldn't expect to Score any threes when you are open.



                          Great list
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                          • Housh123
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1173

                            #14
                            Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                            Originally posted by ph33
                            This game has truly twisted people around (Not calling out anyone here, obviously)

                            It's just, people feel obligated to make a wide open shot. And yes, I want to reward people who get wide open shots. But it's dumb.

                            It's a hard balance to strike because there IS a lot of bad defense being played, people get hot, but shooting 50% from three in this game gets people riled up.

                            I wish it'd go in the direction you stated. But I doubt it.
                            The question I used on Twitter was ok if you feel you should shoot 100% wide open then how do you balance it out and give every archetype an equal advantage? If slashers are 1 on 1 to the rim should they make the layup or dunk 100%? Should rim protetcors block everybody 100% of the time if they are 1 on 1? Should post scorers hit 100% on fadeaways? Should glass cleaners get every single rebound? Should playmakers break everyones ankle no matter what? Should lockdowns get every single steal they go for?


                            Like I don't wanna call someones opinion dumb but it is what it is.
                            Last edited by Housh123; 05-31-2017, 04:26 PM.

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                            • E The Rhymer
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 923

                              #15
                              Re: Assuming your release timing is as perfect as it could possibly be...

                              Originally posted by Housh123
                              The question I used on Twitter was ok if you feel you should shoot 100% wide open then how do you balance it out and give every archetype an equal advantage? If slashers are 1 on 1 to the rim should they make the layup or dunk 100%? Should rim protetcors block everybody 100% of the time if they are 1 on 1? Should post scorers hit 100% on fadeaways? Should glass cleaners get every single rebound? Should playmakers break everyones ankle no matter what? Should lockdowns get every single steal they go for?


                              Like I don't wanna call someones opinion dumb but it is what it is.


                              I would love to see how the "community" aka twitter fingers feel about it. I'm sure the same guys who think there 3s should go in every time would never want anyone of t the things you said.


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