Fifa 18 Gameplay and New Features

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Check out the Fifa Twitter for tons of gameplay in their new features videos. Lots of impressive looking gameplay and cool new features from team styles, to dribbling improvements, to crossing.

[BrianFifaFan]

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https://www.easports.com/fifa/news/2017/fifa-18-team-styles-and-positioning

[andanesean]

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I see no repetitive revolution in this clip, and if I'm really nice maybe a little bit of evolution. A few codes and individual favorite team with these characteristics creates no CTT etc. I do not hear anything (slow) about build up play or better defense, but typical FUT inspiring fast build and counter attack,quick passing, etc. So my team from League 1 can play as Liverpool FC, where is realism dear friends ?. But let's see what they bring, seems too superficial to see something new.

[Brahvocado]

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I see no repetitive revolution in this clip, and if I'm really nice maybe a little bit of evolution. A few codes and individual favorite team with these characteristics creates no CTT etc. I do not hear anything (slow) about build up play or better defense, but typical FUT inspiring fast build and counter attack,quick passing, etc. So my team from League 1 can play as Liverpool FC, where is realism dear friends ?. But let's see what they bring, seems too superficial to see something new.

I'd say the fact that Catenaccio is one of the styles mentioned suggests at the very least that EA took a decent look at the coding and how both player and AI teams play defense.

It probably won't be perfect, but if something even slightly resembling Catenaccio is actually achievable then we'd be looking at the most advanced fifa game to date, from a defensive standpoint.

[LionsFanNJ]

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Man, if they get the team styles right it will be a glorious thing. Also I first saw the positioning thing on their twitter feed and man if my CPU team mates (and the opponents) make those runs it will be amazing. I'm sure we'll still have to use CTT to make them play even better, but its a start.

[andanesean]

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I'd say the fact that Catenaccio is one of the styles mentioned suggests at the very least that EA took a decent look at the coding and how both player and AI teams play defense.

It probably won't be perfect, but if something even slightly resembling Catenaccio is actually achievable then we'd be looking at the most advanced fifa game to date, from a defensive standpoint.

Yes, you're right that EA does not completely rule out looking at it. Catenaccio's original form is hardly used in modern football (man to man and libero free role). But it is continued and in short, it can be returned to Italian football and 3-5-2 / 5-3-2. So, you might want to see it being introduced because of Conte and Chelsea's success, and nothing wrong with it. The problem is if it is the only form of coded defense mechanism, then it quickly becomes monotonous, but again you are right it is a start.

[Brahvocado]

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Yes, you're right that EA does not completely rule out looking at it. Catenaccio's original form is hardly used in modern football (man to man and libero free role). But it is continued and in short, it can be returned to Italian football and 3-5-2 / 5-3-2. So, you might want to see it being introduced because of Conte and Chelsea's success, and nothing wrong with it. The problem is if it is the only form of coded defense mechanism, then it quickly becomes monotonous, but again you are right it is a start.

I mean, what we played was most definitely not Catenaccio.

My interest has nothing to do with Conte, I was just thinking that perhaps being able to achieve something similar means they actually looked at defense for a change.

It's all wishful thinking in the end.

[SilverChaosVII]

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This right here is why we need another American football game outside of Madden.

Look at EA having to make an effort because of PES. The play styles and whatnot is something PES implemented 2 years ago. It's forcing FIFA to keep up.

Wish we had that kind of competition across all games. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out for FIFA.

[Brahvocado]

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This right here is why we need another American football game outside of Madden.

Look at EA having to make an effort because of PES. The play styles and whatnot is something PES implemented 2 years ago. It's forcing FIFA to keep up.

Wish we had that kind of competition across all games. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out for FIFA.

Actually I've been a pretty big advocate for a third soccer game for a while.

Imo both EA and Konami have become quite complacent. Both know what they are best at, and if you look at the way they present their products each year, it's essentially "remember how much better we are than those other douchebags at [insert regular game feature here]? Well, this year we made it even BETTER".

Neither company ever really takes big risks anymore or tries genuinely new things to improve on even basic things that their fans have been asking for.

2k Sports getting involved in soccer would probably be the dream.

[andanesean]

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I mean, what we played was most definitely not Catenaccio.

My interest has nothing to do with Conte, I was just thinking that perhaps being able to achieve something similar means they actually looked at defense for a change.

It's all wishful thinking in the end.

You misunderstand. I do not say Chelsea plays Catenaccio?!. I say it is continued especially from Italian football 3-5-2 and 5-3-2. Conte has brought 3-5-2 this game back to English football successfully, this could be one of the reasons they will use it in FIFA18. No, why should you also be interested in Conte?.

[andanesean]

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I mean, what we played was most definitely not Catenaccio.

3-5-2 can be swiftly switched to 5-3-2 and that is what Italian football is known for. Chelsea play 3 (4-1) 5-2 with a straight high line (3 back defense), they are good at lightning fast counter football. And if they are holding a lead they can swiftly change to 5-3-2. It's the Italian play style where defense is crucial and that's what they've taken from Catenaccio compared to man to man in squeezing, but not the style of play it is virtually dead.

[PPerfect_CJ]

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Someone posted this on the EA board. If only they would listen to us.

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[Matt10]

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Someone posted this on the EA board. If only they would listen to us.

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Great video. Thanks for sharing. Agree with it all.

[Brahvocado]

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3-5-2 can be swiftly switched to 5-3-2 and that is what Italian football is known for. Chelsea play 3 (4-1) 5-2 with a straight high line (3 back defense), they are good at lightning fast counter football. And if they are holding a lead they can swiftly change to 5-3-2. It's the Italian play style where defense is crucial and that's what they've taken from Catenaccio compared to man to man in squeezing, but not the style of play it is virtually dead.

Catenaccio doesn't require a specific formation, Sacchi's Milan is one of, if not the most famous example of a Catenaccio team, and they mostly played a 4-4-2. Italian teams like 3-5-2 because it makes playing defense easier to organize and execute, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily "known" for that specific formation, but rather the general style of play. Maybe Juve.

Anyway, I see what you are saying, and I definitely wouldn't put it past EA to implement their version of Catenaccio in the laziest and most horrible way possible. I'm really just naively hopeful that the inclusion of a defensive style means that EA legitimately took a look at defense in general.

Probably not though. I'd imagine they will screw this up.

[andanesean]

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Catenaccio doesn't require a specific formation, Sacchi's Milan is one of, if not the most famous example of a Catenaccio team, and they mostly played a 4-4-2. Italian teams like 3-5-2 because it makes playing defense easier to organize and execute, but I wouldn't say they are necessarily "known" for that specific formation, but rather the general style of play. Maybe Juve.

Anyway, I see what you are saying, and I definitely wouldn't put it past EA to implement their version of Catenaccio in the laziest and most horrible way possible. I'm really just naively hopeful that the inclusion of a defensive style means that EA legitimately took a look at defense in general.

Probably not though. I'd imagine they will screw this up.

Catenaccio "The chain" came first and foremost to strengthen the defense !. Italian football loves tactics, but even more, they love to defend and they love their 3-5-2. Catenaccio introduced libero rolls who were positioned behind a line of three defenders 1-3-3-3, that was the formation of Catenaccio, which was used by Inter in the early 60's, and it was focusing on the defense section. 3-5-2 can use the extra man in the midfield as a defensive and tactical tool, it is derived from Catenaccio (Libero / Sweeper) section. There is no doubt that Italian football loves to defend and their love for 3-5-2 is well known and has been for many years. The fact that they can use the extra man to tactical tasks both offensive and defensive are part of their playing culture. It's not just Juve who plays 3-5-2 in series A and B, just try and take a look and you will discover a part playing the system in one or more variants. That means you think it's easy to overlook and defend 3-5-2?!. Nothing could be more wrong for me. Using 3-5-2 is one of the hardest to orginaze and perform. It is certainly not easier to perform, in fact, Italian football is wildly tactical and the more complicated the better. Remember that time Benitez tried to convince them in the genius of 4-2-3-1, they (the press) did not agree !.