Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

[miamifan1997]

This is not for MUT or Solo Challenges. Me and a few buddies play online CFM and are in year 2. In the past few Maddens, we have always played on All-Madden but it hasn't been impossible to stop the CPU.

Basically, if I user an LB, they throw to WR1 or WR2. If I user DB's, they throw to TE or run it. If I user the DL, the QB just throws. There are also many times I am bringing 4-5 guys up front and the CPU gets 7-10 seconds to stand in the pocket before throwing to a WR coming back from the end of his route.

Does anyone have general strategy? I looked up things on Madden School, but almost all of their plays aren't designed for All-Madden. I've tried 4-3, 3-4, just nothing seems to help.

[steve115658]

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Yeah it's super rough without sliders. People on here seem to get great results with sliders but I just hate using them. I've had the most success on defense running heavy zone blitzes with hard flats on the field and hope the quarterback gets the ball out quick and makes a mistake to the flat or my user linebacker.

Matching formations is way more important this year than past years, you can't just sit in a nickel if they are in I-form or a 4-3 vs 3 wide receivers

[miamifan1997]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

Yeah we are the same way, sliders feels like you "cheating". I mean, I know madden CPU already cheats on All-Madden lol, but it just doesn't feel right to cheat back.

I have heard mixing up zone and man is big too, I usually run 80% zone on Madden so I think I need to equal it out to 50-50 or 60-40.

[steve115658]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

It really depends on personnel, I'm using the Jets ATM so I run very little man but if you have the corners to do it man blitz is great. The computer cheating is definitely heavy this year, I'm 100 percent sure this year they know your play call and if you deviate at all with your user from his assignment they will burn your vacated area, for this reason I like to user a guy who was assigned to blitz and hot route him into a hook zone that's already occupied. It takes a Blitzer away but you can truly free roam

[steve115658]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

Also a slider change I made (and then undid because it still felt like cheating lol) that seemed to help was to drop the cpu pass accuracy to 30. To make it fair-ish I also dropped my accuracy to 30 but it still felt wrong

[scitychamps87]

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Something that helped me for almost a whole season of CFM was Armor & Sword's All-Pro sliders. They are not too far from default so it feels pretty true to ratings. Although unfortunately year 2 of my Rams CFM I've been destroying teams so I'm looking for something else. I've done some All-Madden testing in on slow game speed in play now and it still feels wrong. Bad teams beating up on good teams simply because the AI gets a boost. My biggest question with the game this year is this:

WHY. WHY. WHY. WHY. WHY is there such a drastic uptick in difficulty between All-Pro and All-Madden??? It's absolutely insane. It almost makes the game broken. This is the most frustrated I've been with this in a Madden game in quite a long time which is an absolute shame because when the game does play well it is my favorite Madden to date.

[franko3219]

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I'm having the same issue. CPU QBs nearly going perfect the entire game, stretch plays that are nearly unstoppable, user team receivers dropping passes all of the time, etc. I've tried changing my coach adjustments, I mix my playcalls up on offense and defense, yet nothing seems to help. I love the fact of having a difficult AI, just don't make it cheap. I've tried dropping it down to all-pro, but I end up winning every game against the CPU. I hate messing with sliders as well. Once you go down that path, you end up constantly adjusting. If they could just tone down the CPU blocking on all-madden, I think that would alleviate a majority of the issues.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

This is not for MUT or Solo Challenges. Me and a few buddies play online CFM and are in year 2. In the past few Maddens, we have always played on All-Madden but it hasn't been impossible to stop the CPU.

Basically, if I user an LB, they throw to WR1 or WR2. If I user DB's, they throw to TE or run it. If I user the DL, the QB just throws. There are also many times I am bringing 4-5 guys up front and the CPU gets 7-10 seconds to stand in the pocket before throwing to a WR coming back from the end of his route.

Does anyone have general strategy? I looked up things on Madden School, but almost all of their plays aren't designed for All-Madden. I've tried 4-3, 3-4, just nothing seems to help.

I run a lot of Cover 3 vs the CPU on All Madden, and most of my success has been playing the curl-flats. I lay off enough to discourage the deep corner, but am ready to instantly bolt toward the flat. It works pretty well, as I am often able to bait the QB into throwing short and then run up and make the tackle, but I often miss passes more in the middle of the field.

That or I play weakside defensive end and pass rush.

Anyway, you've got to make sure your defense is in position to defend the run, because they will toast you on All Madden. For example, if I'm playing the curl flat in cover 3 and they line up with 3 WRs to my side, I WON'T line up over the slot WR. Instead, I'll play near the line and then run that way at the snap, so that I'm in position to help with the run.



EDIT- oh yeah, I should also mention I play in the defensive camera mode exclusively.

[scitychamps87]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

I'm still in that struggle spot. I dropped down from an All-Pro sliders set to default All-Pro and had some competitive games but I'm still able to will myself past the CPU to win almost 90% of the time. But I tried upping to All-Madden slow game speed and got the exact reverse effect. Cardinals-Cowboys. I was Dallas. I got absolutely flattened by Arizona and Carson Palmer turned into the USC version of himself and completed 95% of his passes. In 20 games on All-Madden I've lost all but 2 games. In 20 games on All-Pro within CFM at least I've only lost 6. Mind you this is with the Rams with respect to CFM. If anyone has found a sweet spot between the two extremes without straying too far from default let me know. I think my 2 choices are either:

1. Play All-Pro with house rules and play to the imagination in my head that teams can breakout suddenly and become powerhouses for years on end due to an improving young QB (e.g. Seattle).

2. Play All-Madden while testing on play now, learn to put up with the cheese, and hope to eventually learn how to win.

Option 2 is looking more attractive right now but it makes some really awful things happen in the game like having absolutely no effective run game. I wonder if there's something the devs can do about this. Even expanding CPU playcall variety and improving their blocking would be a massive improvement. The CPU actually plays pretty decent on defense.

[ktd1976]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

I'm still in that struggle spot. I dropped down from an All-Pro sliders set to default All-Pro and had some competitive games but I'm still able to will myself past the CPU to win almost 90% of the time. But I tried upping to All-Madden slow game speed and got the exact reverse effect. Cardinals-Cowboys. I was Dallas. I got absolutely flattened by Arizona and Carson Palmer turned into the USC version of himself and completed 95% of his passes. In 20 games on All-Madden I've lost all but 2 games. In 20 games on All-Pro within CFM at least I've only lost 6. Mind you this is with the Rams with respect to CFM. If anyone has found a sweet spot between the two extremes without straying too far from default let me know. I think my 2 choices are either:

1. Play All-Pro with house rules and play to the imagination in my head that teams can breakout suddenly and become powerhouses for years on end due to an improving young QB (e.g. Seattle).

2. Play All-Madden while testing on play now, learn to put up with the cheese, and hope to eventually learn how to win.

Option 2 is looking more attractive right now but it makes some really awful things happen in the game like having absolutely no effective run game. I wonder if there's something the devs can do about this. Even expanding CPU playcall variety and improving their blocking would be a massive improvement. The CPU actually plays pretty decent on defense.

Keep in mind, that, for whatever reason, Play Now, and Franchise seem to play an entirely DIFFERENT game. It is not uncommon to do play now, and seem to have a slider set locked in, only to get into franchise mode, and have the game be either too easy, or to hard, and have to start from scratch.

[Dantheman317]

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Honestly this year in Madden I think they ruined the All-Madden difficulty in past Madden's beatings the CPU wasn't impossible but this year it's unbearable. I don't even have enough time or patience to explain all the CPU glitches that occurr I've got a YouTube channel with four vids showcasing a glimpse of the CPU cheese. Check them out Mr.JacksonActionthatis it's terrible

[burnwood]

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One huge problem on All Madden I see is the unrealistic reaction response from CPU defenders. On every single pass play you can see through replay how defenders react on the instant a button is pressed.

These are defenders that aren't even assigned to who you're targeting to pass. I've seen in man coverage three CPU defenders react to the instant press of the button to defend a pass to a receiver. In addition to that, many LBs are able to cover too much ground and end up with the ability to cover multiple offensive guys at once. Not realistic.

Then there are the spectacular drops (I call them). In certain situations you already know that the receiver will drop the ball no matter how open.

Collision detection when running the ball is horrible and triggers the slowdown or stumble animation if you are within 5 ft of an offensive lineman.

CPU defensive lineman shed blocks instantly at the LOS to consistently stop you for 0-2 yard gains. The majority of the time you are flattened with a tackle animation that takes you straight down to the ground without regard to how fast you hit the hole, or how big your back is.

Suction tackles/blocks abound.

Too many to continue listing.

You basically spend 80% of your time fighting through BS, and 20% trying to find plays to get over on the CPU with. There is no chess match playing here.

[scitychamps87]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

One huge problem on All Madden I see is the unrealistic reaction response from CPU defenders. On every single pass play you can see through replay how defenders react on the instant a button is pressed.

These are defenders that aren't even assigned to who you're targeting to pass. I've seen in man coverage three CPU defenders react to the instant press of the button to defend a pass to a receiver. In addition to that, many LBs are able to cover too much ground and end up with the ability to cover multiple offensive guys at once. Not realistic.

Then there are the spectacular drops (I call them). In certain situations you already know that the receiver will drop the ball no matter how open.

Collision detection when running the ball is horrible and triggers the slowdown or stumble animation if you are within 5 ft of an offensive lineman.

CPU defensive lineman shed blocks instantly at the LOS to consistently stop you for 0-2 yard gains. The majority of the time you are flattened with a tackle animation that takes you straight down to the ground without regard to how fast you hit the hole, or how big your back is.

Suction tackles/blocks abound.

Too many to continue listing.

You basically spend 80% of your time fighting through BS, and 20% trying to find plays to get over on the CPU with. There is no chess match playing here.

This is exactly the problem I'm seeing on All-Madden. Reaction time goes from slow to superhuman.

[garyraymond23]

Re: Can anyone stop CPU on All-Madden

Yes and No, I'm more streaky and inconsistent than anything.

I'll have Aaron Rodgers throw 3 picks (2 pick 6's) and I'll get 7 sacks in a single game.

Then

Josh McCown will go 35/40 500 yards 6 TD's on me.

I honestly think that the CPU purposely rigs itself on All Madden sometimes. Some of the throws that these below average QB's make on All Madden is just absurd occasionally.