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  • stantencza
    Rookie
    • Aug 2005
    • 259

    #1

    System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

    Can anyone confirm or refute this? Someone in another forum says he has 'confirmed' it but he has a history of making stuff up. He says there are no boosts for any of his player in an online Super Max match. Obviously if this is true it has a huge impact on that game mode. Anyone know for sure?
  • Bubba13laze
    Pro
    • Oct 2015
    • 866

    #2
    Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

    Originally posted by stantencza
    Can anyone confirm or refute this? Someone in another forum says he has 'confirmed' it but he has a history of making stuff up. He says there are no boosts for any of his player in an online Super Max match. Obviously if this is true it has a huge impact on that game mode. Anyone know for sure?
    I don't know...it seems kind of dumb to add a strategic team building mechanic to the game and then disable its effects in competitive play. I mean, this year the skill boosts you buy in my career dont work in proam. But that's a p2w thing they don't want in proam because it interrupts the balance of archetypes. In myteam the coach isn't a pay to win thing.. It's a strategic choice to help specify the style our team will play.

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    • isdatyt
      Pro
      • Feb 2012
      • 672

      #3
      Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

      There is no way to "confirm" this so he's lying and is probably just not that good at the game and is upset that his 3 point boost isn't turning all his players into Klay Thompson. Even if he was dedicated enough to get a big enough sample size of games, there are still way too many variables to confirm it one way or the other.

      Let's say he's trying to test the fact that KD's three pointer went up to an 80 with Perimeter Centric (Idk if it does, I'm just using a made up example)

      He'd need a large sample size of him taking the same shot, with the same timing, over the same opponent, from the same spot, with the same release, with the same level of stamina, every time over the span of several games.

      Multiple factors affect shooting, sometimes players just get hot and sometimes they're cold. Sometimes I play against guys that use Curry and he splashes away 9 threes on like 60% from deep. Then other times he barely cracks 40% and can't knock more than a few down.

      Not to mention that MyTeam gameplay is usually against other users who I'm sure aren't willing to provide a controlled environment to test this in.

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      • stantencza
        Rookie
        • Aug 2005
        • 259

        #4
        Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

        Originally posted by isdatyt
        There is no way to "confirm" this so he's lying and is probably just not that good at the game and is upset that his 3 point boost isn't turning all his players into Klay Thompson. Even if he was dedicated enough to get a big enough sample size of games, there are still way too many variables to confirm it one way or the other.

        Let's say he's trying to test the fact that KD's three pointer went up to an 80 with Perimeter Centric (Idk if it does, I'm just using a made up example)

        He'd need a large sample size of him taking the same shot, with the same timing, over the same opponent, from the same spot, with the same release, with the same level of stamina, every time over the span of several games.

        Multiple factors affect shooting, sometimes players just get hot and sometimes they're cold. Sometimes I play against guys that use Curry and he splashes away 9 threes on like 60% from deep. Then other times he barely cracks 40% and can't knock more than a few down.

        Not to mention that MyTeam gameplay is usually against other users who I'm sure aren't willing to provide a controlled environment to test this in.
        My only concern if I completely disregard system, is that players who are a poor fit for the system actually get attributes reduced, and obviously I would prefer to get boosted attributes, or no boost, before reduced stats. So I wouldn't want to disregard system completely unless I was 100% sure it wasn't hurting my 'non-system' guys in my lineup...

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        • Scramz718
          MVP
          • May 2012
          • 1324

          #5
          Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

          Originally posted by isdatyt
          There is no way to "confirm" this so he's lying and is probably just not that good at the game and is upset that his 3 point boost isn't turning all his players into Klay Thompson. Even if he was dedicated enough to get a big enough sample size of games, there are still way too many variables to confirm it one way or the other.



          From what I understood is that they show the proficiency ratings boost ( you can see them by going to the substitution screen ) for offline modes but not in super max.

          So it can be few things proficiency ratings doesn't work for super max it's a display error or they just don't want to show the ratings boost for super max.

          I don't think the dude lying or terrible at the game. You're are right there really isn't a way to confirm but why would they be selective on the modes the display the ratings boost?

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          • EarvGotti
            MVP
            • Nov 2009
            • 2249

            #6
            Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

            Yeah i know what you're talking about and I was able to confirm this myself. Offline/Freestyle you can see the individual ratings boosts to each attribute when you look at a player. This is determined by their proficiency rating and the system you are in.

            I've looked during many supermax games and the same boosts are not there. It could be a visual display glitch but i doubt it. Knowing 2k, they built this heavily detailed coaching system and it doesn't even work in the most important mode.

            Typical.
            Lineup:
            PG) Gary Payton
            SG) '95-'96 Michael Jordan
            SF) Sapphire Scottie Pippen
            PF) '95-'96 Dennis Rodman
            C) Hakeem Olajuwon

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            • ER1C 3KGSX
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 298

              #7
              Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

              Originally posted by EarvGotti
              Yeah i know what you're talking about and I was able to confirm this myself. Offline/Freestyle you can see the individual ratings boosts to each attribute when you look at a player. This is determined by their proficiency rating and the system you are in.

              I've looked during many supermax games and the same boosts are not there. It could be a visual display glitch but i doubt it. Knowing 2k, they built this heavily detailed coaching system and it doesn't even work in the most important mode.

              Typical.
              I notice on my lineup screen before a game that Hamiltom becomes a 90 due to coaching boosts. When I get home I'm gonna hop on supermax and if theoretically the boost doesnt work, then I should see him as his original 89 rating. Just further evidence I guess.

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              • BrandH
                Rookie
                • Feb 2007
                • 268

                #8
                Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

                I noticed yesterday that my ruby Shaq was showing as a 90 overall instead of 89 after I changed my system so it must be changing something even if it doesn't show in the sub screen.

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                • Erithtotl
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 679

                  #9
                  Re: System Proficiency allegedly does not work in Super Max

                  Yeah everyone is taking this at gospel but I really do think its working.

                  My teams have been pretty effective defensively running at 90+ prof with Pop as coach. Just played a guy who had Gheorghe Mursesan who came in shooting %70 and I pretty much shut him down.

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