Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

[NARFALICIOUS]

Particularly in relation to Park games.
So I've made 2 MyPlayers already, both at 80 OVR.
7'3 300lb Pure Rim Protector Center (a few silver and bronze badges)
6'5 175lb Slasher/Defense PG - 7 or so max badges (silver and bronze)

I made my C 300 lb because I remember from 2K17 that was the minimum weight to get max strength.

I really was thinking Strength was important this year (though it really wasn't last year either), but I constantly get pitted against SFs and Guards. I get players running around me and I have to really get back on D very early. Would it help to come down to lowest weight but stay 7'3? I like being really tall and getting blocks. Or should I come down to 6'11-7'1ish and minimum weight?

I just haven't seen too many situations to necessitate being heavy and having strength.

Problem is both players are at 80 OVR now and I feel like it's too much of a grind. clothes don't carry over so I've been hesitant to even get those after my first player.

[Mbunn1993]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I'm 7'3", max weight finisher/rebounder, and I can back down and dunk on anybody with ease except pure rim protectors and I can keep up full court as much as smaller bigs for the most part, and with good stick control I still play really solid perimeter defense

Pros of max height/max or high weight far outweighs the cons imo

Strength is a big factor

[Korrupted]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I made a 6'5 Guard with minimum weight. I hold my own in Park but it's not easy at times. I get some of the worse animations on defense when trying to prevent my matchup from driving to the rim. If I could redo it I'd definitely max his weight out. I see no difference in max weight vs minimum weight this year in regards to speed. The bigger players get up and down the court just as good as the smaller players. Strength is a different story though.

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I fell into a trap by believing that strength matters this year. For the most part, it really doesn't with few exceptions like post scorers and glass cleaners.

If you a guard and not a pure lockdown defender then there is no reason to be heavy.

[VAWereWolf65]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I think athletic finishing big men should get a lot more athleticism then they have.

Porzingis is 7’3” and is a really fast player for his size and he has nearly a 40 inch vertical. In 2k i’m pretty sure his speed rating is somewhere in the 70s, however he’s only around 230-240 pounds.

Shaq was probably anywhere between 340-360 pounds towards the peak of his career, but before the early 2000s hit he was only around 320 and was very fast and athletic for his size as well. His speed in 2k is around a 68 with his vertical in the 80s.

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I'm 7'3", max weight finisher/rebounder, and I can back down and dunk on anybody with ease except pure rim protectors and I can keep up full court as much as smaller bigs for the most part, and with good stick control I still play really solid perimeter defense

Pros of max height/max or high weight far outweighs the cons imo

Strength is a big factor

340 pound guys can't keep up with my 300 pound guy. I'm always first to get under the rim and dunk.

[nyk_fatboy]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I'm 7'3", max weight finisher/rebounder, and I can back down and dunk on anybody with ease except pure rim protectors and I can keep up full court as much as smaller bigs for the most part, and with good stick control I still play really solid perimeter defense

Pros of max height/max or high weight far outweighs the cons imo

Strength is a big factor

it really is i have a 7'3 300 pound rebound/atheltic like 88 ovr im working on my 7'3 340 rebound/atheltic even that little bit of strength equals a huge difference and i can already see the size difference and backdown difference (yes even at 300) i struggled backing down at times but at 340 its a breeze, im more powerful in the paint, pinning players, and i dont get moved around etc etc

people might think im weird for doing the exact same build over for the max weight but its definitely worth it especially for my playstyle. e

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I think athletic finishing big men should get a lot more speed then they have.

Porzingis is 7’3” and is a really fast player for his size. In 2k i’m pretty sure his speed rating is somewhere in the 70s, however he’s only around 230-240 pounds.

Shaq was probably anywhere between 340-360 pounds towards the peak of his career, but before the early 2000s hit he was only around 320 and was very fast and athletic for his size

I made my player with shaq in mind. He is a pure finisher 7'3 300 pound and his speed is 48 with 24 bars out of 25 maxed.

There is a whole another issue with the bars that is another topic. Some builds 20 bars = 80 speed meanwhile other builds it takes 15 bars to get 85 speed. There is absolutely no consistency to this madness.

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

it really is i have a 7'3 300 pound rebound/atheltic like 88 ovr im working on my 7'3 340 rebound/atheltic even that little bit of strength equals a huge difference and i can already see the size difference and backdown difference with my new guy. i love it

people might think im weird for doing the exact same build over for the max weight but its definitely worth it especially for my playstyle

LOL im doing the excact opposite. Made a robounding protector 7'3 315 and the guy moves like a turtle so remade him to 7'3 280. Had people just run around me and dunk. Can't cover any ground being obese.

[nyk_fatboy]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

LOL im doing the excact opposite. Made a robounding protector 7'3 315 and the guy moves like a turtle so remade him to 7'3 280. Had people just run around me and dunk. Can't cover any ground being obese.

not even being half defender? thats weird lol. even at 300 lbs i was defending guards pretty well. did you have the quick reflex and defensive stopper badges both increase your ability to defend big time thats why i could still hold my ground.

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

not even being half defender? thats weird lol. even at 300 lbs i was defending guards pretty well. did you have the quick reflex and defensive stopper badges both increase your ability to defend big time thats why i could still hold my ground.

no, I literally played 2 games of walk on with him and went back to my other guy. 1 game this athletic finisher just kep going around me like i was a traffic cone lol.

My guy was fresh out o the womb with no badges. Maybe 1 day i will restart him again.

I have a problem. Created 7 players and all of them 85 too bad i can't buy badges smh

[shayellis]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

There is almost no reason to not max weight on this game. Especially if youre a big. The video I will link below shows how a max weight(340lb) Center is only 2 points slower than a min weight center (280lbs). Also the max weight center is 6 points higher on Strength than the min weight center and this weight increases likelyhood of contact dunks even outside of the Contact Dunk rating, according to nba2klab.com. Both centers vertical is the same also which is crazy. Contact Dunk and Boxout are 1 point higher on Max weight

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/c0IQOLRCPEA" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>


Below I linked the impact of weight and strength on dunking from nba2klab.com from 2k17.

https://www.nba2klab.com/2k17-archive/

[de5m0n]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

There is almost no reason to not max weight on this game. Especially if youre a big. The video I will link below shows how a max weight(340lb) Center is only 2 points slower than a min weight center (280lbs). Also the max weight center is 6 points higher on Strength than the min weight center and this weight increases likelyhood of contact dunks even outside of the Contact Dunk rating, according to nba2klab.com. Both centers vertical is the same also which is crazy. Contact Dunk and Boxout are 1 point higher on Max weight

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/c0IQOLRCPEA" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>


Below I linked the impact of weight and strength on dunking from nba2klab.com from 2k17.

https://www.nba2klab.com/2k17-archive/

I have seen Center that were ike 240 so 280 cannot be min weight.

[shayellis]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

I have seen Center that were ike 240 so 280 cannot be min weight.

That sounds possible. 280 minimum did seem large for a minimum. But with that gap of 60 lbs having almost no impact on speed, I doubt if the minimum weight is lower than 280, that it will change the speed

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[nyk_fatboy]

Re: Can we talk about Strength vs Speed?

There is almost no reason to not max weight on this game. Especially if youre a big. The video I will link below shows how a max weight(340lb) Center is only 2 points slower than a min weight center (280lbs). Also the max weight center is 6 points higher on Strength than the min weight center and this weight increases likelyhood of contact dunks even outside of the Contact Dunk rating, according to nba2klab.com. Both centers vertical is the same also which is crazy. Contact Dunk and Boxout are 1 point higher on Max weight

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/c0IQOLRCPEA" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>


Below I linked the impact of weight and strength on dunking from nba2klab.com from 2k17.

https://www.nba2klab.com/2k17-archive/

lol nah man there is a true difference in weight

movement, boxout, dunking, strength etc etc the stats are identical but the FEEL is extremely different.