Yeah, video games have problems. Madden 18 has problems. But were people doing this complaining in the real world when the internet wasn't quite what it is today? I remember those money plays in Madden and it got me irate playing Madden in the 90's and early 2000's. But truth? i still loved what I had. I had football. I could take control of my sad sack brownies and be okay with the issues on money plays and nano glitchs and so on. The internet just has become a tyrade of complaining IMO. So if the internet didn't exist, would anyone know how "bad" Madden 18 allegedly is? Or would it still be the most popular sports game on the earth?
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
Yes, but the anger wouldn't probably wouldn't have gotten to the flash point we are currently sitting at. When people put themselves inside of echo chambers they get riled up and basically the angry comments bounce back and forth between people just getting them more upset. It is not unique to Madden, or even gaming, but something that has developed throughout the internet era.
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I think there's great value in appreciating what we have and remembering the way things were. Hell i first played madden on the Commodore 128 where you only got like 6 teams and none were officially licensed. We've come a long way and I'm grateful.
But none of this excuses the current state of madden. They have the resources to do better but lack the will and as long as we make excuses for them it never will improve beyond the superficial crap they peddle annually.
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
Yes, but only my neighbors woud know what i was screaming at my tv about.Comment
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
Absolutely, even when I'm playing a CFM I complain to my dogs.
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
If there was no internet so there was no 32 man franchises and no sharing of sliders, I think people would have already stopped playing the game lol. (For the CFM players at least, obv MUT wouldn't work either)51 & 55
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
If you want to enjoy madden more walk away from the forums. I’m not even kidding. I used to post on sports message boards a lot and I found that once I stopped I started enjoying the sports more because I wasn’t stressed about what troll04003 was saying today, or having to read constant negativity which was effecting my own opinion and mood toward the teams I liked.
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
Here's what I've learned personally: video game enjoyment is inversely proportional to time spent on message boards about said game.
When I spend too much time reading complaints about a game, it makes it really hard to enjoy the game because I focus too much on all of the negatives (some of which I may have never even known about).
Sometimes I just need to pop in the game, tune it, and roll with what works for me. I will completely avoid complaints or bug/glitch threads. I find that this method makes playing the game exponentially more fun.Comment
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
If there wasn't internet then they wouldn't be pulling resources from offline players to fuel ultimate team and head 2 head online.Comment
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
i agree with this. For me, I wouldn't have known there was this many AI issues on defense unless someone pointed out. And when I found them as being real, it did give me some of that negativeity towarsd the game I would have PROBABLY not have had because I didn't look for it. Lord knows how many bugs were on the past madden games that were never mentioned or discussed with gamers in the real world...*with no internet*Comment
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Re: Ponder of the day: If the internet didn't exist, would people still be complainin
Yes, and if the internet didn't exist there wouldn't be the imbalance on competitive play and online-connected loot box card pack mini games like Ultimate Team, so maybe they would have focused on improving franchise mode, player vs. CPU games, and the features that they used to focus on.
This question is a non-starter. The internet exists.
Madden '18 is a bad game, a rehashed Madden '17.5 being sold for $60, packaging the NFL license into a microtransactions minigame that tries to exploit people with gambling addictions.
If the internet didn't exist, Madden would be a very different game, the development focus would be very different, and so it's impossible to say what our reaction would be. Also, if you're remembering back being a youth and loving Madden '99 it could be because you weren't as critical or did not value money, time, and leisure as you do now. My leisure was worth much less to me when I was 14 or 15, playing NCAA Football 98 or Madden 99 because I worked a stupid job for 10 hours a week, and was at home all weekend playing videogames, so if I wanted to waste 8 hours playing a bad videogame on a Saturday afternoon, why the hell not, I was overflowing with time and had nothing better to do.
But, today, as a disgruntled grown man, who works 40-50 hours a week and spends the rest of my time mowing the damn lawn, I have about 3-5 hours a week to play videogames at the most (typically less), and now I'm a more discerning consumer. My money means less to me because I have a lot more money than I did when I was paid $5/hr for 10 hours a week, but my time means a lot more to me. If I think something sucks and if publishers are trying to take advantage of me, selling me a half-baked, buggy, microtransaction-riddled videogame, I'm going to give them the negative feedback that their product deserves.
I mostly stay away from glitch threads or threads that talk about exploits or break down bad defense. I just don't care enough. But, if a patch gets released for a game that starts causing my game to freeze inexplicably during gameplay, I'm pretty damn happy I can take to the internet and find other people complaining about the same bugs, and hoping to get through to the publisher/developers that their latest patch caused the software to stop functioning normally (of course, if there was no internet, the idea of a game-breaking patch would be ... difficult).Last edited by Rebel10; 10-12-2017, 12:46 PM.Comment
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