Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

[ImInThis]

I feel like a minority. My center is a 79 overall and on the smaller side. 7' 255lbs Post Scorer/Defense. Been going against mostly 80+ overalls. I'm definitely liking the build and if I can reach 99, well damn....

Only downside is going against 7'3 340lbs Centers. It's challenging, but I managed to slow down a couple so far. 1 big advantage I definitely have is speed, my guy is pretty damn fast and I feel with an organized team these big dudes can't guard me on the drive. Glass cleaners/Drivers are easy seeing as they have no post game or mid range so I harrass them in the paint. Post scores may be a problem to defend, but they're often slow due to wieght


I have to figure out how to stop getting dunked on from underneath the rim, it's so damn hard. My strength is nowhere near maxed out though, so that may definitely help.

[Housh123]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I got a 6’ 11 center and it got so bad that I had to make the same guy but taller man

The speed advantage is just not worth it

But I will also say that getting dunked on is a problem for everyone no matter height

It’s just taller dudes get more blocks


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[ImInThis]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I got a 6’ 11 center and it got so bad that I had to make the same guy but taller man

The speed advantage is just not worth it

But I will also say that getting dunked on is a problem for everyone no matter height

It’s just taller dudes get more blocks


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How bad was it?

[Housh123]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

How bad was it?

Really really bad

I needed help if I went against a good big man



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[JustCallMeSleepy]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

Really really bad

I needed help if I went against a good big man



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I know what you mean, but in theory, you should need help against a good big man. Like, I know you’re referring to 7’3 340 guys sealing and posterizing every play; that sucks. Terribly. But in theory, one should need help against a good big.


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[MrBallaBoy21]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I'll have to get back to you with this after I increase my Cs athletic ratings. My guy has the same measurables as yours.

Last year I could hang with any C with my 6'11 builds after I maxed out their athleticism. I don't expect it to be different this year since the mechanics haven't really changed that much.

[ImInThis]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I'll have to get back to you with this after I increase my Cs athletic ratings. My guy has the same measurables as yours.

Last year I could hang with any C with my 6'11 builds after I maxed out their athleticism. I don't expect it to be different this year since the mechanics haven't really changed that much.

What do you mean by maxing out athleticism?

I'm thinking about making Dwight Howard build next, 6'11 265lbs, idk. On Pro-Am the paint is always clogged. Unless you on your own team that can spread the floor, it's tough.


But yeah, those 7'3 340lb bigs are cheese.

[TheFinalEvent97]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

What do you mean by maxing out athleticism?

I'm thinking about making Dwight Howard build next, 6'11 265lbs, idk. On Pro-Am the paint is always clogged. Unless you on your own team that can spread the floor, it's tough.


But yeah, those 7'3 340lb bigs are cheese.

Can definitely recommend a DeAndre Jordan/Dwight Howard build
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[jyoung]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I clipped a longer version of that homicide, which includes the aftermath reaction animations:

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/jyoungAD/video/38147988

That 7'3" cheeseball's head hit the wood so hard he got whiplash and a concussion.

[Schiltzenberger]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

My guy is a 6'11" 276lbs rebounding athletic finisher. I usually don't have any dramas playing against the 7'3" 350lbs monsters.
Just a lot of boxing out and right stick defense..... scoring against them isn't too hard either, just depends on how they use their guy as to how you can attack them.

Although, if I were to start over and build a new centre I'd probably go 7'3" 350lbs pure athletic finisher.

[Pokes404]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

One thing you can try is not jumping for rebounds. If you're with a team, and you can get them to hit the boards, then your best bet is to try to push that 7-3 Center as far away from the goal as possible and just block out when the ball comes off the rim. You won't get many rebounds, but as long as your opponent isn't getting offensive rebounds and immediately dunking on your team, you're doing your job. And even if he does still get the board, if you held your ground instead of jumping, he's usually far enough away from the basket that he has to put the ball on the ground and make a move to score. That time gives your teammates the opportunity to help you out. If you give up your ground though, you're going to get dunked on before anyone can do anything about it.

Also, when I'm guarding someone who isn't an outside shooter (I'm a 3&D SG), I try to sag off and get into position so that I can block that 7-3 Center out myself. That leaves my Center free to go grab the rebound. And again, I don't even bother jumping. I just hold L2, point the left stick toward my opponent, and hold my ground as best I can. You can get some over-the-backs called on them doing this as well.

You need to be able to coordinate with your teammates to make any of this work though. And even then, if a 7-3 Center manages to get deep position in the paint when the shot goes up, you're pretty much screwed.

[Goffs]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

Am I a cheesehead for creating a 7'3 340 beast even if he's a rebounding rim protector? I created this guy specifically to play against other behemoths. I knew many would go big but I value defense more than offense.

He can't dominate on offense but if I get inside he can either dunk or do those weak layups where I fall down and complain to an invisible ref.

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[Nza]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I think the cheese claim is mostly related to how unrealistic/rare the build is in the NBA. But that's arguable for a few of the position's max height and weight combos I guess.

[garyraymond23]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I have a 6'11 shot creating post scorer I've been primarily using since the game came out.

He's only 240 lbs too, so I'd assume he's a small center in regards to the average physical stats of 2k.

I'm roughly 100-10 in the park with him so far (most losses were due to my idiot teammates). I've gotten bodied probably 3-4 times by 7'3 guys with HOF badges but I didn't even have Gold at that time.

Only problem with my build is he's a Bronze in:
Defensive Stopper
Rim Protector
Hustle Rebounder
(I should've made a C I know, didn't know the badges at the time)

so occasionally, I'll get out rebounded/scored on when I probably shouldn't but more than likely, I can defend a bigger/stronger guy successfully and efficiently.

All in all, I'm pretty satisfied with my build - I know I should be consistently and noticeably faster than the 7'3 340 lb guys, I'm not, but it is what it is.

[jyoung]

Re: Those of you with small centers, how many big centers have you stopped so far?

I think the cheese claim is mostly related to how unrealistic/rare the build is in the NBA. But that's arguable for a few of the position's max height and weight combos I guess.

There are only two 7'3" bigs who get a decent amount of playing time in the NBA right now, and one of them weighs 290 pounds (Boban Marjanovic), while the other weighs 240 pounds (Kristaps Porzingis).

The majority of the league's centers stand between 6'11" -- 7'1" and weigh between 240 -- 275 pounds.

IMO those are the only heights and weights that NBA 2K18 should have allowed for online MyPlayer modes like Park and Pro-Am.

I do believe that people should be allowed to make whatever they want for for MyCareer, with no restrictions on height, weight, or wingspan.

But a mode like Pro-Am shouldn't allow max wingspan, 7'3" 340-pound MyPlayers given all of the gameplay imbalances those builds create on the court.

The strength, dunking, and rebounding advantages that 7'3" 340 MyPlayers get is tremendous compared to centers who have more realistic heights and weights in the ranges that I listed above.

Yet the speed, quickness, and jumping disadvantages that 7'3" 340 MyPlayers are supposed to have are not visible at all in Pro-Am right now. Max height/weight MyPlayers have no trouble running stride for stride up and down the court right alongside my 6'8" 240 small forward who is rated a 70 in speed and acceleration. Whenever I am hedging out on their screens, max height/weight MyPlayer are able to explode out of the screen animation and run to the rim like they were prime Karl Malone.

The reason that every Pro Am team has at least 1, and often 2, max height/weight MyPlayers is because they have no real gameplay disadvantages in the current slider set compared to shorter/lighter big men.