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  • tommycoa
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 4982

    #1

    Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

    Shared these with dcthompsoncanyon838 and he tried them with current rosters and loves what he’s seeing. Figured I’d shared them, would have shared before but i was only using them with the classic rosters i made. I think he’s playing with all the field assists on, but all visual assists off. Also he’s got the main menu cameras set at standard with the cfm set to broadcast.

    Also im filing out the sliders for the user and cpu side. Same numbers. Just seems like the human picked team struggles with the run game on offense when they’re 0’d out.



    15 min quarters/18 sec runoff qbs will flip plays, shift formations and audible. How good they audible depends on the qbs awareness.

    I was testing these with my classic rosters and shared them with dcthompsoncanyon and he used them with updated rosters with new rookies, i believe. Haven’t tested with default rosters. Just my classic rosters and an updated modern set with new rookies. No idea how these play with other roster. Just something to plug and play until Madden 19 gets released.

    All madden and sim at intro

    All pro and comp MM

    All pro arcade cfm

    100 Fatigue
    95 speed thresh
    15 injury

    Autosubs
    Running back 99/98—backs rotate marvelously on arcade fatigue 100, make sure rbs personal fatigue is below 90. They’ll stay in too long and get ate up for TFLs. Working on a fatigue formula for backs to get different rotations, still WIP.

    Oline 99/33
    Dtackles and d ends-97/95

    All assists off except for Ball Hawk. Helps with completion percentage.


    Qb acc 35———-i use 81, but im using the qbs real life percentage completion in the short, med, deep accuracy personal ratings. The higher qb acc, you wont see as many TFLs. 81’s a tad too high here. Looking for money number, just wanted you to see qbs running on the high end, how human they are compared to other ratings. I think qb acc is the brain of the offense and INT is the brain of the defense.

    Pass block 100—causes more deep shots

    Wr catch 52 or 53—-these are the money numbers. If te catches too many on 52, use 53. Also change te to blocking in scheme and player profile to knock down on too many catches

    Run block-45—yes this low. This is definitely the money number on run block. Especially with tackle in 35-37 range.

    Fumble 25–this slider doesn’t work as advertised. Hard to explain, but i see fumbles no matter where this is at. Lower this is the more they play to ratings. When over 50 its like they have a governor screw like a four wheeler.

    Pass react 30

    INT 50——with ball hawk on these work good. INT may need to come up because with ball hawk on i see lots of dropped picks.

    Pass cover 70

    Tackle 35-37 range. This is key. Brings out all kinds of animations.

    Offsides 60
    False start 40
    Holding 100
    D Holding 55
    Facemask 30
    DPI 99—still see a couple a game
    Block in back 100

    Turn Intention Grounding ON or OFF users preference- still testing this one, just need more results/others opinions to see whats what. Dccanyon says he’s liking the results. But i did find some problems with it like it gives the human picked side an advantage with the classic rosters set, but dccanyon has been using updated rosters.

    Roughing passer 49—helps with qbs getting rid of ball faster and not scrambling as much. Still working on a formula to get qbs scrambling right. Think im close. Will share when complete

    In main menu penalties, turn them all the up to 100, but leave d holding and false start to 0. This is all for cfm. Dont really do play now anymore.

    Also Using generic or custom playbooks fixes 90 percent of the game.

    Also experimented with super simming play by play. To do that, set super sim speed to slow and jump to next play. It’s a frustating process because the game freezes up a lot, but the cpu and human sides seem even. By that, I mean the game plays like it does in Play Now when the human user doesn’t pick a side, where the controller is in the middle. Game plays way better this way, but it’s an aggravation to pull off. Ive yet to be able to finish a game like this without it freezing.
    Last edited by tommycoa; 07-10-2018, 05:56 PM.
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  • StefJoeHalt
    MVP
    • Feb 2014
    • 1058

    #2
    Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

    Being a Coach Mode guy I’m going to give these a try


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    • tommycoa
      MVP
      • Nov 2008
      • 4982

      #3
      Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

      Originally posted by StefJoeHalt
      Being a Coach Mode guy I’m going to give these a try


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      They run kind of wide open with custom playbooks. Still tweaking a bit. Can’t wait to see how they do for you.
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      • StefJoeHalt
        MVP
        • Feb 2014
        • 1058

        #4
        Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

        So gave them a try..I liked the feel, was more difficult then I expected..but like u stated was alittle too wide open very offensive..

        But it got me wondering if the same theory could be applied to Pro to maybe bring more bite to the defensive side of the ball..what u think?

        At one point two title updates ago I did use a mix of Matt10 and schnait1 sliders to create a Pro Coach Mode set..wondering if that is possible..


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        • tommycoa
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 4982

          #5
          Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

          Updated the original post. Getting way better results. Will try to post some boxscores.
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          • shaunhill256
            Rookie
            • Sep 2017
            • 449

            #6
            Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

            Do u know how to fix the tight ends from catching everything

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            • tommycoa
              MVP
              • Nov 2008
              • 4982

              #7
              Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

              Originally posted by shaunhill256
              Do u know how to fix the tight ends from catching everything
              With this set, assigning cpu appropriate generic playbook, haven’t seen a te catch more than 6-7 passes. Most games they catch 4.

              Or do you mean drops by TEs? They do that to with this set.

              This set provides shoot-outs, blowouts, defensive struggles.

              Really feel like this is the best cpu cpu slider out there. Not really my work, they finally got qb play fixed/improved.
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              • shaunhill256
                Rookie
                • Sep 2017
                • 449

                #8
                Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                I changed all the tentacies to balance and the receivers r catching more now

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                • StefJoeHalt
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1058

                  #9
                  Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                  Originally posted by tommycoa
                  With this set, assigning cpu appropriate generic playbook, haven’t seen a te catch more than 6-7 passes. Most games they catch 4.



                  Or do you mean drops by TEs? They do that to with this set.



                  This set provides shoot-outs, blowouts, defensive struggles.



                  Really feel like this is the best cpu cpu slider out there. Not really my work, they finally got qb play fixed/improved.


                  Tommy..which generic books are u using? Or better easier question..which do u avoid?


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                  Rule #2: Never use your real name.
                  Rule #15: Fight the urge to tell the truth.
                  Rule #30: Know the playbook so you can call an audible.
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                  • tommycoa
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 4982

                    #10
                    Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                    Originally posted by StefJoeHalt
                    Tommy..which generic books are u using? Or better easier question..which do u avoid?


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                    All of them seem good, as long as you take control of opponents coach, change his scheme to balanced. Also helps gameplay if you set all the players tendencies to balanced in this screen. All except qb. Assign them whatever they’ve got naturally. But it really helps if you change mobile guys to balanced. They still scramble,4-7 times a game, which is about right.

                    Try these on a cpu game again with my updates. They play a bit better now. Just cant get any penalties called.
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                    • shaunhill256
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 449

                      #11
                      Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                      I’m confused when u say generic playbooks u gotta download em

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                      • tommycoa
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4982

                        #12
                        Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                        Originally posted by shaunhill256
                        I’m confused when u say generic playbooks u gotta download em
                        No, it’s the ones labeled West Coast, Run Heavy, Run Balanced Run and Gun, Run and Shoot, Spread, and Balanced.

                        Balanced is the best to use. Run balanced works good as well. The balanced book may be 50/50 run/pass but if it strays, its through passing. You may see 38 passes and 31 runs. Where with run balanced it’s the opposite. Seen a team with run balanced get behind and they threw the ball to try and catch up.
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                        • shaunhill256
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 449

                          #13
                          Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                          SO I should use west coast for Steelers since that’s what they mainly use

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                          • tommycoa
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4982

                            #14
                            Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                            Originally posted by shaunhill256
                            SO I should use west coast for Steelers since that’s what they mainly use
                            I’d go balanced. West coast has the old far/near formations from the 80s that nobody uses anymore. I use it but im 10 years ahead and just look at the old formations as a trend of going back to the past.

                            The Balanced playbook is the best of the lot. You can run this with different teams (I have) and im not sure you’d see it utilized the same way. Teams use what works best for them with this one. So every team doesn’t look the same. It’s almost like it doesn’t have any situational plays rated,. It’s just a wide open playbook.
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                            • shaunhill256
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 449

                              #15
                              Re: Tommycoa’s CPU vs CPU Sliders

                              I watched the best game I’ve seen on madden 18 so far. Running game kinda off bell didn’t do good juju smith had 5 catches lead team this was a pre season game Giants vs steelers giants won 16-13 in ot

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