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  • rivershark82
    Rookie
    • Sep 2012
    • 80

    #1

    The only thing I can't understand

    Why there are no separates stats for kicks and punch ? Maybe I miss something but what's the reason ?

    It is really not realistic for career mode . Say, for instance, I am a brawler... I ve got punches, I ve got power and maybe a decent accuracy right ?

    Then one day at the gym a guy show up and tell me : You got power , u are a brawler bro, ever heard of spinnig heel kick ?

    BOOM , I can throw perfect karate master kicks.


    I dont understand, really.
  • Morgan Monkman
    North of 60
    • Apr 2016
    • 1385

    #2
    Re: The only thing I can't understand

    They decided to combine kick and punch speed/power.

    Don't ask me why to explain this.

    don't ask me why to explain this game either.
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    • emmdeekay
      Rookie
      • Nov 2017
      • 102

      #3
      Re: The only thing I can't understand

      Obviously just guessing but I assume it was a concession to make UT stats a bit cleaner. So instead of getting a card with right hand power and left leg power its nicely consolidated into just one stat. Not saying I agree with it but that's the only logical thing I can think of.

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      • UFCBlackbelt
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1067

        #4
        Re: The only thing I can't understand

        Originally posted by emmdeekay
        Obviously just guessing but I assume it was a concession to make UT stats a bit cleaner. So instead of getting a card with right hand power and left leg power its nicely consolidated into just one stat. Not saying I agree with it but that's the only logical thing I can think of.
        I wouldn’t mind if they mixed the left/right and just put it into switch stance stat, but combining punches and kicks was just dumb

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        • killakrok
          Pro
          • Dec 2006
          • 605

          #5
          Re: The only thing I can't understand

          Originally posted by emmdeekay
          Obviously just guessing but I assume it was a concession to make UT stats a bit cleaner. So instead of getting a card with right hand power and left leg power its nicely consolidated into just one stat. Not saying I agree with it but that's the only logical thing I can think of.
          The stats on UT cards are terrible and make no sense anyway.

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #6
            Re: The only thing I can't understand

            It was a bad decision and the community as a whole (including the gamechangers) hated it. Hopefully it gets changed for the next game.

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            • rivershark82
              Rookie
              • Sep 2012
              • 80

              #7
              Re: The only thing I can't understand

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              It was a bad decision and the community as a whole (including the gamechangers) hated it. Hopefully it gets changed for the next game.
              Do you think is big problem for CAFS ? Ther's no way to create a fighter that has, let's say, lethal power in his hands , is capable to throw kicks but he hasnt got that sort of ko power...

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #8
                Re: The only thing I can't understand

                Originally posted by rivershark82
                Do you think is big problem for CAFS ? Ther's no way to create a fighter that has, let's say, lethal power in his hands , is capable to throw kicks but he hasnt got that sort of ko power...
                Power isnt really the issue. Speed is. For example, Lets take Nick Diaz. He shouldnt have powerful or fast kicks. You can limit his power by only giving his kicks low move levels which will make them less powerful.

                There are no speed levels though.

                That means that Diazs kicks will be as fast as his hands. It was a bad decision and I really dont know why they went down this route.

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                • AeroZeppelin27
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 2287

                  #9
                  Re: The only thing I can't understand

                  Originally posted by rivershark82
                  Do you think is big problem for CAFS ? Ther's no way to create a fighter that has, let's say, lethal power in his hands , is capable to throw kicks but he hasnt got that sort of ko power...
                  That problem applies to almost every fighter in the game already due to the combined stats, so yes, CAFs too, you'd essentially have to only give them boxing combos or remove all their kicks to partially alleviate this.

                  But the problem is there, Hendo has crazy powerful hands and powerful kicks that look far more effective than any kick he ever threw, he doesn't have (many) combos for them, but he has them none the less.

                  And alas, let's not forget it applies to both power annnd speed, and move levels help power, nothing differentiates speed, fast punchers and now fast kickers, ect.

                  It feels like a change made for UT that literally only should have happened to UT and not affected other modes, then UT cards get balance or whatever and the rest of us get youknow.. logical stat categories.

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                  • Zeta Reticulan1
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 471

                    #10
                    Re: The only thing I can't understand

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    Power isnt really the issue. Speed is. For example, Lets take Nick Diaz. He shouldnt have powerful or fast kicks. You can limit his power by only giving his kicks low move levels which will make them less powerful.



                    There are no speed levels though.



                    That means that Diazs kicks will be as fast as his hands. It was a bad decision and I really dont know why they went down this route.


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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #11
                      Re: The only thing I can't understand

                      Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
                      Timelines and [emoji383][emoji383][emoji383]


                      Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


                      I don’t know about money but it wasn’t timelines. We have been talking about this issue for over a year. This was a conscious decision by someone. Not a decision based on timing.


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                      • Sylvioros
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 55

                        #12
                        Re: The only thing I can't understand

                        That goes beyond understanding.

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                        • rivershark82
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 80

                          #13
                          Re: The only thing I can't understand

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          Power isnt really the issue. Speed is. For example, Lets take Nick Diaz. He shouldnt have powerful or fast kicks. You can limit his power by only giving his kicks low move levels which will make them less powerful.

                          There are no speed levels though.

                          That means that Diazs kicks will be as fast as his hands. It was a bad decision and I really dont know why they went down this route.

                          I perfectly understand where the issue is now , but as I am not wrong, you like to play Universe mode/cafs lke I do.

                          Im finding difficult create guys like Kimbo for example, I can take out all the kicks i want , he will still have a high power on low and body kick.

                          Any suggestions ?

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                          • kush land
                            Banned
                            • May 2016
                            • 443

                            #14
                            Re: The only thing I can't understand

                            Replace the level 1 kick moves wwith a new slow animation I've said this multiple times weidmans spin kick looks like edsons he should almost be falling over when he does it.

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                            • Morgan Monkman
                              North of 60
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 1385

                              #15
                              Re: The only thing I can't understand

                              The person who made this decison obviously has no clue about fighting and should be moved to another game.

                              Like seriously how do you even fathom the thought that hand speed and kick speed are the same?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?
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