Are disgruntled online players bad losers

[rob3563]

Now i am not an online player but the constant negativity online from the same group of players even after every patch,is this because they are just losing to better players that they just can't beat no matter what the gameplay is at or there is more serious problems at hand as it seems not all online players think it is that bad.

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

There are issues with the game. If people were winning more often due to the use of legitimate strategy rather than one dimensional tactics e.g. grappling with GSP/Woodley/Maia or sway/hooking and duck/uppercutting, there would be far less complaints


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[magx950]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

Now i am not an online player but the constant negativity online from the same group of players even after every patch,is this because they are just losing to better players that they just can't beat no matter what the gameplay is at or there is more serious problems at hand as it seems not all online players think it is that bad.

A lot of us don't care if we win, as long as the way we lose is actually a realistic representation of MMA

I really dont mind losing to a guy better than me. What I do mind is losing to crazy bull****. Unfortunately, a lot of crazy bull**** still exists post patch and the game is a very poor representation of MMA


I wouldn't be surprised if there were salty goofs who also complained a lot though.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

There are issues with the game. If people were winning more often due to the use of legitimate strategy rather than one dimensional tactics e.g. grappling with GSP/Woodley/Maia or sway/hooking and duck/uppercutting, there would be far less complaints


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Uh how is grappling with Woodley,GSP, Maia not legit?

I swear y’all want grapplers to be useless

[Nugget7211]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

Uh how is grappling with Woodley,GSP, Maia not legit?

I swear y’all want grapplers to be useless

To be fair, regarding Woodley, he's hit 5 takedowns in the UFC, 3 against Condit and one in each Wonderboy fight. It's not really something he's done with regularity since Strikeforce and I personally wouldn't put him in the same bracket as guys like Maia and GSP.

But yeah, people solely trying to grapple with Maia and GSP is fine, same way it's fine to not shoot takedowns with McGregor or Joanna.

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

Has to do with the methods. When one guy picks Conor McGregor, taunts and bobs his head like dominick cruz to drain your stamina while spamming your body, only to eventually end up 1 hit koing you because you threw a jab. It's the kind of gameplay that makes you think "Well, if I can't beat this, this is what high level gameplay will amount to, so what's the point?"

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

But is that strategy actually good at a high level?

[Knuckledeep1980]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

I would have to say that the mood and vibe is most definitely from the cheese and exploits. I have played over 2000 matches in ranked and probably the same in quick match. Some players are good, even great.....

What I find in ranked, against these "top players", is constant duck hook and bob n weave. Alternatively, knee/elbow phone booth spam or trying to lock animation cycles on the ground or against the cage. The crazy thing is when you beat these guys, they message with nonsense after their loss.

Even these guys that are just fantastic at grappling, in all areas of the game, ruin their credibility with all the cheese they will try when things are not going their way. I think I can speak for the majority here and say this is why people get pissed.

All that said, the people playing like this are using the game exploits that they were given to play with. It's a total chore, but that's what is in our massive metaphorical sandbox. I don't think I can recall an MMA game or boxing game that didn't involve this kind of player or the ability to play as this kind of player.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

But is that strategy actually good at a high level?

Serengeti is a top player and complained all day about it

That “Imuhboxer” dude is a top player and known cheeser

ZombieRommel even stated that stuff is a problem.

So to answer your question. Yes

[SuperNoVa27]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

It’s not crazy to feel cross if you’re outlanding someone on the feet yet never rock them only for them to turn around and hurt or worse KO you because of a questionable mechanic.

I’ve had plenty sequences where I’ve landed 10+ clean unblocked strikes to someone’s head in a well paced time span only for them to come out on top of the exchange because they slipped a jab.

Picking your shots and finding holes to land is a waste of time and precious stamina against a player of similar skill because all it takes is one slip to gain a huge advantage. Sure you can methodically pick apart lesser players but it’s not viable against higher competition to fight that way. You need a counter dominant game plan.

Can’t speak on the ground game, I could stop higher level grapplers in 2 but this game seems a bit more strict on denial timing. Takedowns are still pretty weak however.

[MMA Damage]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

It’s not crazy to feel cross if you’re outlanding someone on the feet yet never rock them only for them to turn around and hurt or worse KO you because of a questionable mechanic.

I’ve had plenty sequences where I’ve landed 10+ clean unblocked strikes to someone’s head in a well paced time span only for them to come out on top of the exchange because they slipped a jab.

Picking your shots and finding holes to land is a waste of time and precious stamina against a player of similar skill because all it takes is one slip to gain a huge advantage. Sure you can methodically pick apart lesser players but it’s not viable against higher competition to fight that way. You need a counter dominant game plan.

Can’t speak on the ground game, I could stop higher level grapplers in 2 but this game seems a bit more strict on denial timing. Takedowns are still pretty weak however.

No vulnerability on strikes when you're not moving. Everything has to be off a slip basically cuz this game is a joke. Then the great controls with their sluggish input delay that makes the game more about guessing what your opponent will do rather than react to it.

These devs are absolutely clueless about anything related to mma. They're "devs" but need everyone here to help them make their game and they still can't get it right.

THQ and Tiburon made their games just fine and needed feedback for tweaks. These guys spent 2 years on one faucet of the game and that is completely broken and unbalanced.

Sure didn't forget to make UT more P2W tho.

[Zeta Reticulan1]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

It’s not crazy to feel cross if you’re outlanding someone on the feet yet never rock them only for them to turn around and hurt or worse KO you because of a questionable mechanic.



I’ve had plenty sequences where I’ve landed 10+ clean unblocked strikes to someone’s head in a well paced time span only for them to come out on top of the exchange because they slipped a jab.



Picking your shots and finding holes to land is a waste of time and precious stamina against a player of similar skill because all it takes is one slip to gain a huge advantage. Sure you can methodically pick apart lesser players but it’s not viable against higher competition to fight that way. You need a counter dominant game plan.



Can’t speak on the ground game, I could stop higher level grapplers in 2 but this game seems a bit more strict on denial timing. Takedowns are still pretty weak however.

To comment on the strict denial timing, I have noticed strict timing particularly for getting an arm trap in sub mount. I’m starting to think it’s broken.


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[Dave_S]

Re: Are disgruntled online players bad losers

Probably some, definitely not all.