Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

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  • Freshly Baked Gregg
    Pro
    • Jan 2018
    • 605

    #1

    Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

    All it is is an instant 50/50 dice roll for a rock without punishment for initiation.


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  • rabbitfistssaipailo
    MVP
    • Nov 2017
    • 1625

    #2
    Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

    What else you going use to catch head spammers ?

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    • Evil97
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1099

      #3
      Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

      It's insanely easy to deny, like really really insanely easy. If you are in it, you can eventually get good enough to hold RT to block the head and be quick enough to react and put down LT when you see the knee start up.

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      • ImAnOlogist
        Rookie
        • Jan 2018
        • 381

        #4
        Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

        Because distance and footwork are the primary means of defense for strikers, you shouldn't be in the pocket to have to worry about the grapple attempts. You should be just outside of it to dip in for strikes and dip out to avoid it. The clinch and take downs are not a threat at the right distance. It's easy to deny both if you're keeping your wits about you. It's designed well.

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        • Evil97
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1099

          #5
          Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

          Originally posted by ImAnOlogist
          Because distance and footwork are the primary means of defense for strikers, you shouldn't be in the pocket to have to worry about the grapple attempts. You should be just outside of it to dip in for strikes and dip out to avoid it. The clinch and take downs are not a threat at the right distance. It's easy to deny both if you're keeping your wits about you. It's designed well.
          The clinch and takedowns are not a threat at any distance if you are not in a coma.

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          Last edited by Evil97; 03-30-2018, 11:42 AM.

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          • RetractedMonkey
            MVP
            • Dec 2017
            • 1624

            #6
            Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

            You seriously have to lack fingers to not be able to deny this.


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            • iHazCode
              Rookie
              • May 2016
              • 397

              #7
              Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

              I don't support removal of the Thai Clinch entry at all, however....

              I do think it would be cool if you could get an automatic Thai Clinch entry if attempted while an opponent is rocked. Also if you land a knee in this state it should AT LEAST knock the opponent down. Currently I think it can only rock people.

              Is it possible to KO someone from a Thai Clinch knee in this game?

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              • FCB x Finlay
                MVP
                • Nov 2017
                • 1293

                #8
                Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                Why not just make it so its very very easy to move out, and that landing an elbow or knee is about timing.

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                • DomNWO
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 16

                  #9
                  Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                  Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
                  Why not just make it so its very very easy to move out, and that landing an elbow or knee is about timing.
                  It's already very very easy to block, so what you're suggesting is to just completely kill the thai clinch entirely, if you were to do that without reworking the entire clinch system.

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                  • FCB x Finlay
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1293

                    #10
                    Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                    Originally posted by DomNWO
                    It's already very very easy to block, so what you're suggesting is to just completely kill the thai clinch entirely, if you were to do that without reworking the entire clinch system.
                    Yeah i am advocate for changing the entire clinch system with the centre of the cage, you should be able to move out the clinch very easily. I should be close to instant entry while in the pocket of elbows and knees.

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                    • johnmangala
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4525

                      #11
                      Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                      Originally posted by iHazCode
                      Is it possible to KO someone from a Thai Clinch knee in this game?
                      You can get both KDs and KOs from Thai clinch knees.

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                      • AeroZeppelin27
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 2287

                        #12
                        Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                        Only if they change the rules of real MMA to say "All Thai Plums must be worked for or attempted ONLY from Single Collar or Double under on pain of death"

                        But as others have said, its almost too easy to deny, I literally accidentally deny them all the time just by trying to pull back too soon after blocking and the game registers it as R2+RS up.

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                        • AeroZeppelin27
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 2287

                          #13
                          Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                          Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
                          Yeah i am advocate for changing the entire clinch system with the centre of the cage, you should be able to move out the clinch very easily. I should be close to instant entry while in the pocket of elbows and knees.
                          Yeah. I'm in that boat too, I'd rather they just redo the whole thing than try to salvage the. current one.

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                          • Find_the_Door
                            Nogueira connoisseur
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 4051

                            #14
                            Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                            Originally posted by Evil97
                            It's insanely easy to deny, like really really insanely easy. If you are in it, you can eventually get good enough to hold RT to block the head and be quick enough to react and put down LT when you see the knee start up.

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                            Denying the clinch is far too easy on this game. So easy that it should honestly have a more complex input to be honest.
                            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #15
                              Re: Can the instant Thai clinch be removed?

                              Originally posted by iHazCode
                              I don't support removal of the Thai Clinch entry at all, however....

                              I do think it would be cool if you could get an automatic Thai Clinch entry if attempted while an opponent is rocked. Also if you land a knee in this state it should AT LEAST knock the opponent down. Currently I think it can only rock people.

                              Is it possible to KO someone from a Thai Clinch knee in this game?
                              That's something Nog used to do a lot when he'd rock someone - just quickly clinch them then bop em.
                              Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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