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Kneetapsingleleg 05-05-2018 06:35 PM

Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
I just had 3 fights in a row where people weren't even bothering to block their head while i was on the offensive.

I was playing as chris weidman. I was up against two anderson silvas in a row.

They would check leg kicks and if i landed flush head kicks it would do about 50% of their head health, and regenerate within 2 seconds of it landing.

This happens with punches as well. Unless you land a counter punch you're basically whacking them with a nerf football.

TL;DR non vulnerability state strikes do nothing

I understand that not every roundhouse kick to the head is a knockout, but it shouldn't blatantly be doing almost nothing as well. I get rocked by him throwing a hook while i jab, but I land a flush head kick while his hands are down and he literally taunts me after. it happens over and over.

Therebelyell626 05-05-2018 08:44 PM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kneetapsingleleg (Post 2049345767)
I just had 3 fights in a row where people weren't even bothering to block their head while i was on the offensive.

I was playing as chris weidman. I was up against two anderson silvas in a row.

They would check leg kicks and if i landed flush head kicks it would do about 50% of their head health, and regenerate within 2 seconds of it landing.

This happens with punches as well. Unless you land a counter punch you're basically whacking them with a nerf football.

TL;DR non vulnerability state strikes do nothing

I understand that not every roundhouse kick to the head is a knockout, but it shouldn't blatantly be doing almost nothing as well. I get rocked by him throwing a hook while i jab, but I land a flush head kick while his hands are down and he literally taunts me after. it happens over and over.

For me personally round house head kicks have been very effective. Check the replays and make sure they are not glancing blows off of the shoulder. Not saying your wrong, just I haven't personally found this to be the case

Stunna2006 05-05-2018 09:13 PM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
i just hate that its better to literally stand still and press nothing and take 5 punches to the face than it is to move forward and take 1

bmlimo 05-05-2018 09:29 PM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kneetapsingleleg (Post 2049345767)
I just had 3 fights in a row where people weren't even bothering to block their head while i was on the offensive.

I was playing as chris weidman. I was up against two anderson silvas in a row.

They would check leg kicks and if i landed flush head kicks it would do about 50% of their head health, and regenerate within 2 seconds of it landing.

This happens with punches as well. Unless you land a counter punch you're basically whacking them with a nerf football.

TL;DR non vulnerability state strikes do nothing

I understand that not every roundhouse kick to the head is a knockout, but it shouldn't blatantly be doing almost nothing as well. I get rocked by him throwing a hook while i jab, but I land a flush head kick while his hands are down and he literally taunts me after. it happens over and over.

If u aren’t countering or they aren’t moving foward it works just like ufc 2 u have to combo to finish...

Kneetapsingleleg 05-05-2018 10:09 PM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Therebelyell626 (Post 2049345918)
For me personally round house head kicks have been very effective. Check the replays and make sure they are not glancing blows off of the shoulder. Not saying your wrong, just I haven't personally found this to be the case

I'm telling you 100% that unless its a counter the head kicks aren't doing enough

Like im talking the guy was standing still blocking low. he wasn't doing anything. head kick to the face. he takes nothing.

I bet you could record it in training mode but im not near my ps4 at the moment so i can't really show it unfortunately.

Therebelyell626 05-05-2018 11:10 PM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kneetapsingleleg (Post 2049345996)
I'm telling you 100% that unless its a counter the head kicks aren't doing enough

Like im talking the guy was standing still blocking low. he wasn't doing anything. head kick to the face. he takes nothing.

I bet you could record it in training mode but im not near my ps4 at the moment so i can't really show it unfortunately.

I disagree actually after playing some more tonight. I did a match tonight Alexander volkov vs mark hunt. I was volkov. He dropped me in the first round 4 times. In the second i caught him with a an unprotected/non counter head kick in the second that initiated a finish the fight sequence. This is definitely not an issue. I think the OP was a little emotional off of a loss to be honest

rabbitfistssaipailo 05-06-2018 07:43 AM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
He's right to an extent ...

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OPSPunk 05-06-2018 08:55 AM

Re: Why do non-counter strikes do so little?
 
He is right I think the idea is that the punch you can’t see hurts more. So counter strikes you can’t see because you are throwing.


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