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  • Iteachpercussion
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1815

    #1

    M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

    Hello all. Just wanted to let you know my plans.

    I will be creating the 1985 roster and draft classes to go with it!
    Armor and Sword is working with me on the draft classes and I cannot thank him enough for his help.

    What to expect:
    For the roster itself each team will have its complete 1985 roster. The expansion teams will be based on USFL team rosters.

    Those that are familiar with my work you know the time and attention I put into these rosters. I try to match player ht, wt, and age/experience as much as I can. It will not be perfect until EA gives me the ability to edit all of those things in the main menu. (that is another story and source of frustration)
    All players on the team rosters will be wearing accurate equipment. Due to EA limitations I sometimes have to make changes, but all equipment we have the mid-80s look.

    Ratings:
    I have been making classic rosters for several years now and I have created formulas based on statistics to establish many ratings. I also watch a lot of classic football and I believe I have a pretty deep base of football knowledge to use to help in the ratings process. Also, over the years I have done so much testing on how ratings work and effect one another I believe my rating system plays great on the field and does a nice job in terms of sim stats. EA should probably just hire me. lol
    While I try to stay somewhat close to EAs rating system, there are things I alter to make the game play and sim better. I want the game play to feel like 1985 football. That requires some changes in certain ratings. I can elaborate on that if anyone wants specifics.

    What I am excited about is the ability to create draft classes where I can set the rookie ratings to match my rating system. That will allow everyone to keep your franchises going for a few years without having to worry about rookies coming in and breaking the game.

    I edit some free agents to real names, ratings and equipment; but, I also try to minimize the impact free agents will have in he first year by lowering them to around 70 OVR of less.

    Draft Classes:
    Armor and I are planning on making at least 3 (possibly more) years of draft classes. So, you will have the actual 1986, 1987, 1988 draft classes to use. All players in the draft classes will have the correct college and equipment and their ratings will coincide with the base roster. I will throw some possible gems to find in the draft as well as some busts, so make sure you scout well.

    Important:
    Please be patient! Roster creation is a HUGE undertaking and with the new ratings EA introduced this year I have some testing to do. Once I have at least a division finished I will start uploading the roster on Madden Share for everyone to test and enjoy. That is also your opportunity to provide feedback. If I misspelled someone's name, let me know. If I made an equipment mistake, tell me. If you disagree with my rating for a particular player you can let me know; but do not expect me to simply change it. I will look into your concern and see if a change is necessary. The point is, I want feedback from you.

    Timeline:
    I really do not have one. The base roster will probably not be finished until sometime in October. Yes, October! Like I said, it is a long process and I have a full time job, family, and I coach. I put in all the time I can into making the rosters.
    As for the draft classes: Armor will start working on naming and setting hts and wts for the draft classes once he gets the game. Depending on his time it is possible that he will have 1986 and 1987 finished with that part by the time I am done with the base roster. Then I will go back and take care of the equipment and ratings. So, the draft classes will come out AFTER the base roster.

    Please let me know if you have any questions about the roster or the process. I will try to keep you updated about progress as I go. I will get the game tonight and spend a few hours with it. I do not anticipate beginning the process for the roster until this weekend or early next week. I have a lot of testing to do with the game.
  • Iteachpercussion
    MVP
    • Jul 2012
    • 1815

    #2
    Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

    Roster is LIVE:

    File Name: 1985
    Alt. File: 1985B
    PSN: Iteachhistory78

    Teams complete:
    AFC EAST: Miami, New England, NYJ, Indianapolis, Buffalo
    AFC Central: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburg, Houston
    AFC West: LA Raiders, Denver, Seattle, San Diego, Kansas City
    NFC EAST: Dallas, NYG, Washington, Philadelphia, St. Louis Cardinals
    NFC Central: Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa Bay
    NFC West: LA Rams, San Fran, New Orleans, Atlanta
    Expansion Teams:
    Houston Texans=Houston Gamblers
    Baltimore Ravens=Baltimore Stars
    Jacksonville Jags=Jacksonville Bulls
    Carolina Panthers=New Jersey Generals

    All 32 Teams Complete
    Free Agents: Done
    Last edited by Iteachpercussion; 10-31-2018, 10:27 PM. Reason: update

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    • SethMurphy
      Rookie
      • Sep 2009
      • 457

      #3
      Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

      Thank you guys for the awesome work ahead of time. I am so very excited for these. I used some of your rosters in M18 as well.
      PS5 SN - smurf922

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      • HC0023
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 1368

        #4
        Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

        I have been looking into trying different rosters out . Will be looking forward to these .

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        • BreaksoftheGame
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 74

          #5
          Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

          I switched to PC but good luck on your rosters. I always appreciated them in previous years.

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          • vertman
            MVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 1009

            #6
            Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

            Originally posted by Iteachpercussion
            Hello all. Just wanted to let you know my plans.

            I will be creating the 1985 roster and draft classes to go with it!
            Armor and Sword is working with me on the draft classes and I cannot thank him enough for his help.

            What to expect:
            For the roster itself each team will have its complete 1985 roster. The expansion teams will be based on USFL team rosters.

            Those that are familiar with my work you know the time and attention I put into these rosters. I try to match player ht, wt, and age/experience as much as I can. It will not be perfect until EA gives me the ability to edit all of those things in the main menu. (that is another story and source of frustration)
            All players on the team rosters will be wearing accurate equipment. Due to EA limitations I sometimes have to make changes, but all equipment we have the mid-80s look.

            Ratings:
            I have been making classic rosters for several years now and I have created formulas based on statistics to establish many ratings. I also watch a lot of classic football and I believe I have a pretty deep base of football knowledge to use to help in the ratings process. Also, over the years I have done so much testing on how ratings work and effect one another I believe my rating system plays great on the field and does a nice job in terms of sim stats. EA should probably just hire me. lol
            While I try to stay somewhat close to EAs rating system, there are things I alter to make the game play and sim better. I want the game play to feel like 1985 football. That requires some changes in certain ratings. I can elaborate on that if anyone wants specifics.

            What I am excited about is the ability to create draft classes where I can set the rookie ratings to match my rating system. That will allow everyone to keep your franchises going for a few years without having to worry about rookies coming in and breaking the game.

            I edit some free agents to real names, ratings and equipment; but, I also try to minimize the impact free agents will have in he first year by lowering them to around 70 OVR of less.

            Draft Classes:
            Armor and I are planning on making at least 3 (possibly more) years of draft classes. So, you will have the actual 1986, 1987, 1988 draft classes to use. All players in the draft classes will have the correct college and equipment and their ratings will coincide with the base roster. I will throw some possible gems to find in the draft as well as some busts, so make sure you scout well.

            Important:
            Please be patient! Roster creation is a HUGE undertaking and with the new ratings EA introduced this year I have some testing to do. Once I have at least a division finished I will start uploading the roster on Madden Share for everyone to test and enjoy. That is also your opportunity to provide feedback. If I misspelled someone's name, let me know. If I made an equipment mistake, tell me. If you disagree with my rating for a particular player you can let me know; but do not expect me to simply change it. I will look into your concern and see if a change is necessary. The point is, I want feedback from you.

            Timeline:
            I really do not have one. The base roster will probably not be finished until sometime in October. Yes, October! Like I said, it is a long process and I have a full time job, family, and I coach. I put in all the time I can into making the rosters.
            As for the draft classes: Armor will start working on naming and setting hts and wts for the draft classes once he gets the game. Depending on his time it is possible that he will have 1986 and 1987 finished with that part by the time I am done with the base roster. Then I will go back and take care of the equipment and ratings. So, the draft classes will come out AFTER the base roster.

            Please let me know if you have any questions about the roster or the process. I will try to keep you updated about progress as I go. I will get the game tonight and spend a few hours with it. I do not anticipate beginning the process for the roster until this weekend or early next week. I have a lot of testing to do with the game.
            Sounds like a daunting task, thank you guys for your massive amount of work and detail.This and the fact that OSFM will be doing current rosters has made me purchase the game on PS4 this year instead of Xbox. Come on October! Wait lets enjoy summer first, lol
            Cant wait to see my 85 Vikings.
            Purple people eaters

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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21793

              #7
              Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

              Percussion,

              Just got an early retail impression........FULLY EDITABLE ROSTERS OUTSIDE OF FRANCHISE MODE ON MADDEN 19!!!!!
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              • Iteachpercussion
                MVP
                • Jul 2012
                • 1815

                #8
                Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                All right, so I have the game now. I have not played much because I was gone most of the day.

                But here is what I am seeing right now in terms of the roster and franchise mode:

                The Good:
                As Armor pointed out, players are fully editable (except birthday and handedness) in the main menu! Do you all understand how AWESOME that is! I can change players heights and weights! That means no more over-sized 1980s lineman. I can make them the size they are suppose to be! That is especially awesome because the draft classes will also be correct.
                Another great thing is that I can change faces in the main menu, no more black silhouette. It also saves me time when dealing with guys with long hair. So what a player has long hair and I want to use his in the roster, I will just change his face! So much goodness with the editing.

                The Bad:
                Well, the first thing is not that bad just annoying. EA did not fix the QB motions, so many of them do not work. Oh well, I will work around it.

                Franchise mode: I just started testing sim stats and there are some things that worry me a little and a lot.

                First, I want to try to get run/pass ratios are close as I can in simmed games throughout a season. I also try to only use playbooks which do not have the pistol formation (that really limits me) In the seasons I have simmed (2 so far) I am having trouble getting the run/pass ratio anywhere close so I have a lot of work to do there.

                The new schemes, I believe have some impact on playcalling tendencies, but I am not sure exactly to what extent yet.

                Next, In the two sims I did, QBs seem to be rarely injured, which just is weird. Running backs still do not share carries in simmed games (at least when simming the whole season at once)
                As many have pointed out in the forums, QBs do not seem to run the ball either.

                Good news in stats: Sack numbers are pretty good, which means I should not have to lower DEs pursuit rating as much like I have in the past.

                Well that is all for now, I need to go to bed, it has been a long day. I will be back at testing and such tomorrow!
                If you all are making any game play, playbook, sim stats, or any discoveries please let me know!.

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                • Herschie
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 741

                  #9
                  Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                  Wow, this is such great news, especially since 1985 is the only season that matters, and we all know how it ended. Had a blast with the '87 rosters last year with Dent, McMichael, Singletary, and all those animals. Really made the 46 defense deadly.

                  56a797ad1ef37.image.jpg
                  Would the lady who left her nine kids at Wrigley Field please pick them up immediately? They are beating the Cubs 4-0 in the 7th inning!

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                  • l8knight1
                    BRING BACK F2000 HELMET!!
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 1185

                    #10
                    Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                    I would be excited for any of Teach's rosters, except seasons where my Cowboys are the worst...and the late 80's were pretty bad for them. I couldn't believe they opened rosters. Wish they would bo back and do that for '18 as well.

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                    • l8knight1
                      BRING BACK F2000 HELMET!!
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1185

                      #11
                      Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                      P.S. The 'long' sleeves were shortened this year, hate that, and the common modern Riddell helmet was removed. The only replacement is the Schutt of that version. I have yet to see an additional retro uni, helmet, or away/ home jersey that was missing, added.

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                      • Iteachpercussion
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1815

                        #12
                        Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                        Originally posted by l8knight1
                        I would be excited for any of Teach's rosters, except seasons where my Cowboys are the worst...and the late 80's were pretty bad for them. I couldn't believe they opened rosters. Wish they would bo back and do that for '18 as well.
                        I was floored when Armor told me editing was in.
                        Then I saw it myself and it is Great!

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                        • Iteachpercussion
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1815

                          #13
                          Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                          Originally posted by l8knight1
                          P.S. The 'long' sleeves were shortened this year, hate that, and the common modern Riddell helmet was removed. The only replacement is the Schutt of that version. I have yet to see an additional retro uni, helmet, or away/ home jersey that was missing, added.
                          The sleeves are shorter and do not look as good. It still works ok, better than the "standard sleevers."

                          I saw the Riddell was removed, which sucks.

                          There are some nice additions with the sweat bands being on the forearms which helps some players. Overall I think I will make it work. The neck pad looks better too and does not seem to get clipped by the shoulder pads as much.

                          You are right, there are no new classic uniforms, but the ones that are there do look good. I started working on the Dolphins and made it through the offense. I put them on the practice field and the 84 uniform looks good.

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                          • l8knight1
                            BRING BACK F2000 HELMET!!
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1185

                            #14
                            Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                            Originally posted by Iteachpercussion
                            I was floored when Armor told me editing was in.
                            Then I saw it myself and it is Great!
                            I'm the one that told him heh heh. Armor is one of the good ones.

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                            • Iteachpercussion
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1815

                              #15
                              Re: M19 1985 Season Roster PS4

                              Quick update on where things are:

                              So, I have done some more testing with playbooks to no avail at all. That looks like it will be a problem this year in terms of pass/run ratio.

                              I also tested some ratings to make sure my system works with the sim engine and in gameplay. I am really only concerned about the QBs from that standpoint. So far I think I am good on the ratings front. QBs will seem low, which I am fine with as long as it does not hurt game play. So far I like what I see.

                              I started editing the Dolphins today and got through the offense. I might get the defense done tonight when I get home from football practice.

                              The new editing options really help, but just so everyone is aware, you will see more generic faces. I will use mostly the guys I move around and keep their faces, but some guys I will change. I think this is a plus. I always do it in my own franchise and I like the look.

                              Also, all players on the team rosters WILL have the correct height and weight! This is huge and awesome.
                              I am also giving many (but not all) players the correct college. I am not doing some of the back-ups, but pretty much all of the starters will have the college correct. I am generally NOT changing the hometown and state. Maybe for a couple of guys, but that would be it.

                              I took the Dolphins offense into practice mode against the modern Broncos Defense. It was fun and the equipment and classic Dolphins uniform looks great.

                              I am really excited about this roster, now if I can just get the D#@$ playbooks figured out I will be really happy!

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