Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

[BQ32]

I tried a number of players that have an 86 ball control such as Lebron James and Kevin Durant and can confirm that you no longer have access those momentum cross overs and combos.

I am glad I found this out last night and want to get the word out or 2k is going to P!$$ a lot of people off. I almost dumped my vc into a build last night but decided to try out players with similar stats to see how they moved first. I don't know why they send out those tweets and charts and have them be false or a lie that misleads the player base. Also Durant had access to those animations in the Demo but does not have them in the final game. This is irritating to me as now it has ruined my incentive to create the shot creating build over my sharp shooting build.


You can probably speed boost in takeover mode but that is such a small percentage of the time playing I would not recommend picking a character for only what they can do in takeover.

Edit**
I am getting reports that players on the PS4 that just meet the 86 ball control threshold can utilize these dribble animations, but as I have tested thoroughly on the Xbox One X it is not possible so there is inconsistencies between the consoles. This definitely needs to be looked into. If you are an Xbox player building a myplayer that wants access to these animations be wary of a build under 90 ball control.

Update**

Tested again after patch 4 and the issue has not been corrected. This is very frustrating to those of us who have spent time and money on builds based on the charts 2K released, or those that play on Xbox and want to have the same experience as those on the PS4.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I tried a number of players that have an 86 ball control such as Lebron James and Kevin Durant and can confirm that you no longer have access those momentum cross overs and combos.

I am glad I found this out last night and want to get the word out or 2k is going to P!$$ a lot of people off. I almost dumped my vc into a build last night but decided to try out players with similar stats to see how they moved first. I don't know why they send out those tweets and charts and have them be false or a lie that misleads the player base. Also Durant had access to those animations in the Demo but does not have them in the final game. This is irritating to me as now it has ruined my incentive to create the shot creating build over my sharp shooting build.


You can probably speed boost in takeover mode but that is such a percentage of the time playing I would not recommend picking a character for only what they can do in takeover.

This whole post is LOL central. There's going to be so many people whining soon

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[Erithtotl]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

Didn't they say speed boost is limited to playmaking primaries?

[El_Poopador]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

What is speed boosting? I assumed it was some sort of cheese move, is it not?

[BQ32]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

This whole post is LOL central. There's going to be so many people whining soon

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So because you don't use a feature that has been in the game for years or because you don't care about using the tier 3 dribble moves you think it is alright for 2k to release false information and charts leading thousands of people to make builds and spend VC to only realize that later their build can't do what they were told it would be able. So because you don't care about dribbling builds it is ok for a company to act shady. I find your egocentric response LOL central.

[BQ32]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

What is speed boosting? I assumed it was some sort of cheese move, is it not?

Speed boosting sounds like a cheeser term, but really it is just the language the online community uses for the tier 3 dribbling animations. These are things like the momentum crossover, momentum crossover combos and shamgod moves. These moves can also be more explosive giving them the original term of speed boosting.

[Korrupted]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I heard some streamers say they were having the same issue as well. Not sure what the deal is.

[BQ32]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

Didn't they say speed boost is limited to playmaking primaries?

I never heard anything like that, I heard them say that only playmaker primary builds can get the fall down ankle breaker animations.

[El_Poopador]

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I never heard anything like that, I heard them say that only playmaker primary builds can get the fall down ankle breaker animations.

I don't like that. Ankle breakers should be based on the defender, not on the ball handler. This makes me think that even if you play perfect defense, you could randomly get your ankles broken if the ball handler does the right move, even if you don't bite on it.

[pauliewalnutzz824]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I don't like that. Ankle breakers should be based on the defender, not on the ball handler. This makes me think that even if you play perfect defense, you could randomly get your ankles broken if the ball handler does the right move, even if you don't bite on it.

Facts...............

[T.B]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I don't like that. Ankle breakers should be based on the defender, not on the ball handler. This makes me think that even if you play perfect defense, you could randomly get your ankles broken if the ball handler does the right move, even if you don't bite on it.

Its balances the crap that we cant control. lockdowns are valuable

[franzis]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I don't like that. Ankle breakers should be based on the defender, not on the ball handler. This makes me think that even if you play perfect defense, you could randomly get your ankles broken if the ball handler does the right move, even if you don't bite on it.

There are other builds that have moves/animations that you cannot stop unless you are a lockdown/protector, no matter how well you defend

[BQ32]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

Has anyone heard anymore on this. I thought the youtube/streamer community would be all over this by now but maybe they are focusing on grinding a player that would not have reached an 86 ball control yet. Wondering if it was intentionally changed or if it was a mistake/oversight and are going to change via patch. That would change the character I invest in first.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Re: Can no longer speed boost at 86 Ball Control

I don't like that. Ankle breakers should be based on the defender, not on the ball handler. This makes me think that even if you play perfect defense, you could randomly get your ankles broken if the ball handler does the right move, even if you don't bite on it.

It should be based on both IMO. I wouldn't call Carmelo a playmaker, but he's broken ankles before.

[El_Poopador]

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It should be based on both IMO. I wouldn't call Carmelo a playmaker, but he's broken ankles before.

Right, that’s why I’m saying it shouldn’t be limited to just playmakers. Ankles don’t get broken just because the ballhandler is amazing. I’ve seen Joakim Noah, Paul Milsap, etc. break ankles.

I watched Boogie break Gordon Hayward’s ankles, and Andre Drummond break Chris Paul’s ankles.

It’s not about fancy dribble moves. It’s about the defender over committing and losing footing when trying to get back.

What I don’t want is ankle breakers to trigger randomly because the ballhandler has a high rating, even if I don’t bite on his moves.

Basically, I don't want to see this:
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This is from 2K17, but basically, I was holding the left stick slightly away from Kyrie and towards the basket, staying in front. As soon as he did the hesi-behind the back, the game determined that he faked me out and forced me aside, even though I didn't bite on the hesitation on the controller.