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  • Mikeyo918
    Pro
    • Oct 2010
    • 530

    #1

    LeVeon Bell trade

    So I play a offline CFM (Dolphins) with 32 user control.
    I've had LeVeon on the bench through 5 weeks for PIT, and now was thinking of trading him elsewhere, which looks like will happen IRL.
    What's some good trade packages for him? Whoever he goes to I will resign him long term also.

    Teams im looking at moving him to
    NYJ (real life scenario)
    OAK (Only have 1 guy signed through 2019 at rb, not Lynch)
    BAL (inter division rival? PIT may be reluctant, but what if BAL offers best deal)
    TB (They've got rookie Ronald Jones for 3 more years, but he's not a feature back)

    any other team options?
    Last edited by Mikeyo918; 09-25-2018, 07:22 AM.
    Miami Heat
    Miami Marlins
    Miami Dolphins
    Florida Panthers
    Miami Hurricanes
    Chelsea Blues
    InterMiami
    MLBTS ‘23 (PS5)


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  • Phantom Spaceman
    Rookie
    • Oct 2016
    • 26

    #2
    Re: LeVeon Bell trade

    Well irl the list of teams that can afford him, according to Sportrac, without needing to cut or restructure contracts would be IND, SF, HOU, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and maybe MIA. CLE, CIN and BAL are on that list too but I imagine the chances of him being traded in the division are slim and none. No way the Steelers want to play him twice a year.
    Last edited by Phantom Spaceman; 09-25-2018, 11:35 AM. Reason: CLE also division opponent

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    • timhere1970
      MVP
      • Sep 2013
      • 1810

      #3
      Re: LeVeon Bell trade

      Originally posted by Phantom Spaceman
      Well irl the list of teams that can afford him, according to Sportrac, without needing to cut or restructure contracts would be CLE, IND, SF, HOU, TEN, NYJ, OAK, and maybe MIA. CIN and BAL are on that list too but I imagine the chances of him being traded in the division are slim and none. No way the Steelers want to play him twice a year.
      Houston seems like the best bet. They are a good team that needs a spark.

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      • Vanilla_Gorilla
        Rookie
        • May 2018
        • 420

        #4
        Re: LeVeon Bell trade

        If you wanted to consider where Bell would want to go, Colts.

        Colts are also in most need of a RB and you can get some premium draft capital too.

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        • Mikeyo918
          Pro
          • Oct 2010
          • 530

          #5
          Re: LeVeon Bell trade

          what are some trade packages for him?
          Miami Heat
          Miami Marlins
          Miami Dolphins
          Florida Panthers
          Miami Hurricanes
          Chelsea Blues
          InterMiami
          MLBTS ‘23 (PS5)


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          • Phantom Spaceman
            Rookie
            • Oct 2016
            • 26

            #6
            Re: LeVeon Bell trade

            Originally posted by Mikeyo918
            what are some trade packages for him?
            Tough to say. What complicates this irl is that Bell HAS to play on the tag this year. Not the Steelers nor any other team can sign him to a long term contract until next year. So any team that trades for him can only guarantee a one year (half season) rental for their investment.

            Also despite the RB market making (or trying to make) a comeback, it's still probably an undervalued position. Talent wise Bell is worth a lot obviously, maybe a first and maybe even a little more (just my opinion), but what team wants go give up premium picks for a player that is on a one year deal and you can't sign long term at the time of the trade, at a position where you can find good talent throughout the draft.

            I'm very interested to see what happens to him. You don't usually see elite players get traded in their prime and including Mack we might see it happen twice this year.

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            • Phantom Spaceman
              Rookie
              • Oct 2016
              • 26

              #7
              Re: LeVeon Bell trade

              If your 32 team control is using coaches and you've locked down where you want to send him, or at least have a short list, you can give up control of the recieving team(s) and negotiate with the cpu to see what you can get, and then take over the team again once you have it figured out.
              Last edited by Phantom Spaceman; 09-25-2018, 01:41 PM.

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              • PhillyPhanatic14
                MVP
                • Jun 2015
                • 4824

                #8
                Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                Originally posted by Mikeyo918
                what are some trade packages for him?

                Do you want a Madden-only trade package? Or, are you looking for something realistic?



                In real life i doubt they will get anything other than a 3 for him. Losing him for less doesn't make sense cuz then they'd forfeit a surefire 3rd round conditional pick in 2020. Nobody is giving up a 1 or a 2 for a 13 game rental that they have no option of re-signing until FA when anyone can sign him.


                If you don't want to be realistic you could get more I'm sure. Maybe a 1 or a 2 and a decent player.

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                • Rocket32
                  MVP
                  • May 2016
                  • 1639

                  #9
                  Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                  Saw on the Pro Football Rumors website in the latest Bell article from today that a 2019 third round pick could convince them to do it. Realistically they are gonna have a tough time getting significant value for him. They aren't getting anything close to what the Raiders got for Mack.

                  Unlikely a team gives up a first round pick never mind more on top of that for a rental that they can't negotiate with till after the season, especially a team like the Jets. It's a complicated situation.

                  Saw a good point as well, that are we even sure that Bell would be willing to play for his new team before week 10 or 11 when he's forced to in order to still be a FA? He's been refusing to play out the season on a one year deal for the Steelers, would he really suddenly be ok doing that for another team like the Jets?

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                  • Phantom Spaceman
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 26

                    #10
                    Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                    Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                    Nobody is giving up a 1 or a 2 for a 13 game rental that they have no option of re-signing until FA when anyone can sign him.
                    Originally posted by Rocket32
                    Unlikely a team gives up a first round pick never mind more on top of that for a rental that they can't negotiate with till after the season, especially a team like the Jets. It's a complicated situation.
                    Just to be clear I agree with both of these 100%. I was not trying to imply that a 1st+ is what the Steelers would realistically get for Bell. I was just trying to say that his value is being held down by his contract situation and by the position he plays. I do think he is a 1st round talent though, by which I mean that if he was going to be drafted this upcoming year he would be worth a 1st. Sorry if I misspoke.

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                    • Phantom Spaceman
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 26

                      #11
                      Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                      Originally posted by Rocket32
                      Saw on the Pro Football Rumors website in the latest Bell article from today that a 2019 third round pick could convince them to do it.
                      That's pretty interesting. IF I ran the Steelers I don't think I would take only a 3 for him. Pushing one of the best players in the league out the door to move up half a round or whatever in the 3rd (compared to the compensatory pick they would receive), no thank you. I'd rather try and work it out and take the comp 3rd if I was unsuccessful.

                      But that's part of the reason why this deal is going to be complicated. Again, I'm very interested to see how this all ends up playing out.

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                      • reyes the roof
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11526

                        #12
                        Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                        Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                        Do you want a Madden-only trade package? Or, are you looking for something realistic?



                        In real life i doubt they will get anything other than a 3 for him. Losing him for less doesn't make sense cuz then they'd forfeit a surefire 3rd round conditional pick in 2020. Nobody is giving up a 1 or a 2 for a 13 game rental that they have no option of re-signing until FA when anyone can sign him.


                        If you don't want to be realistic you could get more I'm sure. Maybe a 1 or a 2 and a decent player.
                        They signed more free agents than they lost so they aren't eligible for comp picks in this upcoming draft

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                        • PhillyPhanatic14
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 4824

                          #13
                          Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                          Originally posted by reyes the roof
                          They signed more free agents than they lost so they aren't eligible for comp picks in this upcoming draft

                          It's not based on 2018 FA it is based on 2019 FA so the guys they signed this year are irrelevant to the comp pick formula for the 2020 draft, which is the year they would get a comp pick for Bell if he leaves.

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                          • Phantom Spaceman
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 26

                            #14
                            Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                            Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                            It's not based on 2018 FA it is based on 2019 FA so the guys they signed this year are irrelevant to the comp pick formula for the 2020 draft, which is the year they would get a comp pick for Bell if he leaves.


                            This article by Mike Florio is claiming that he would infact count towards 2018, "Per a source with knowledge of the situation, if the Steelers rescind the franchise tender, Bell’s departure (if/when he signs with a new team) would count toward the Steelers’ overall free-agency losses in 2018 when calculating compensatory draft picks fore 2019, even though the deadline for getting such credit has otherwise passed."

                            Also that the Steelers would not be eligible for a comp pick, "...Bell’s departure would put their net free agency gains and losses at zero, given that they signed safety Morgan Burnett and linebacker Jon Bostic and lost tackle Chris Hubbard. Per a source with extensive knowledge of the compensatory draft pick formula, the next gains and losses of zero would keep the Steelers from getting any compensatory draft picks."

                            To be fair I have heard it reported both ways though.

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                            • PhillyPhanatic14
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 4824

                              #15
                              Re: LeVeon Bell trade

                              Originally posted by Phantom Spaceman
                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/profoot...veon-bell/amp/

                              This article by Mike Florio is claiming that he would infact count towards 2018, "Per a source with knowledge of the situation, if the Steelers rescind the franchise tender, Bell’s departure (if/when he signs with a new team) would count toward the Steelers’ overall free-agency losses in 2018 when calculating compensatory draft picks fore 2019, even though the deadline for getting such credit has otherwise passed."

                              Also that the Steelers would not be eligible for a comp pick, "...Bell’s departure would put their net free agency gains and losses at zero, given that they signed safety Morgan Burnett and linebacker Jon Bostic and lost tackle Chris Hubbard. Per a source with extensive knowledge of the compensatory draft pick formula, the next gains and losses of zero would keep the Steelers from getting any compensatory draft picks."

                              To be fair I have heard it reported both ways though.

                              Yes, if they rescind the offer then he would count towards 2018, but that is never going to happen. They would be dumb to rescind the tag and let him walk for nothing. If he signs the tag and comes back for the last few weeks of the season and then leaves as an FA after this season then they would get a comp pick for the 2020 draft. If he doesn't ever sign the tag for this season then they can use the same tag # on him next year instead of incurring the massive escalation of a 3rd tag which could prevent him from hitting FA after this season.

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