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  • blk5tar5
    Pro
    • Nov 2014
    • 809

    #1

    defensive 3 second rule

    According to the NBA rulebook (the rule is the same for college), once an offensive player brings the ball across half-court, any defensive player inside the 16-foot lane (from the baseline to the free-throw line, commonly referred to "painted area") must be "actively guarding an opponent within three seconds."

    Why is 2K not calling this the amount of off ball players who are camping in the key.

    Reason for this post I’m not getting FREE points from this. C’mon a rule is a rule I want my FREE points 2K!


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  • ItchyNscratchy
    Banned
    • Jan 2018
    • 305

    #2
    Re: defensive 3 second rule

    Can u post a video of exactly what the play looks like?? I dont think you really understand how the rule works. I use a center and always avoid these calls

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    • blk5tar5
      Pro
      • Nov 2014
      • 809

      #3
      Re: defensive 3 second rule

      It’s no a play it’s when users play off ball with the centre and are camping in the key! There’s no 3 defensive call at all! I’ve seen multiple times where he’s not even stepping out of the key to reset the count.


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      • Hova Tha God
        Rookie
        • Sep 2008
        • 8

        #4
        Re: defensive 3 second rule

        I feel like they miss this call alot in JRC. But the "actively guarding" is that the defender must be within arms length of a offensive player. I get it called on me alot in MyCareer even though I'm within arms length of a player. I think the game can't recognize consistently when a person camping in the paint is within arms length of an offensive player.

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        • lossanthon
          Rookie
          • Sep 2016
          • 118

          #5
          Re: defensive 3 second rule

          Originally posted by blk5tar5
          According to the NBA rulebook (the rule is the same for college), once an offensive player brings the ball across half-court, any defensive player inside the 16-foot lane (from the baseline to the free-throw line, commonly referred to "painted area") must be "actively guarding an opponent within three seconds."

          Why is 2K not calling this the amount of off ball players who are camping in the key.

          Reason for this post I’m not getting FREE points from this. C’mon a rule is a rule I want my FREE points 2K!


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          There is no 3 second defensive violation in college or high school basketball. I officiate both.


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          • prestwood90
            Banned
            • Nov 2013
            • 1253

            #6
            Re: defensive 3 second rule

            Originally posted by blk5tar5
            It’s no a play it’s when users play off ball with the centre and are camping in the key! There’s no 3 defensive call at all! I’ve seen multiple times where he’s not even stepping out of the key to reset the count.


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            They can stay in the lane if they’re nearby a offensive player making an attempt to guard him


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            • de_jesus
              Pro
              • Sep 2015
              • 527

              #7
              Re: defensive 3 second rule

              Look I am going to say this, if an issue that appears to be this small gets through the devs may have trouble implementing the rule in its truest form without impacting the game negatively. Hell maybe they are generous about it because they know animations could get you caught up unintentionally


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              • El_Poopador
                MVP
                • Oct 2013
                • 2624

                #8
                Re: defensive 3 second rule

                2K doesn't enforce the call unless the player is in the key for six seconds. I imagine it's an attempt to counter the overabundance of bumping animations that prevent players from moving around properly.

                But the penalty is in the game. If you pay attention, you'll notice that most CPU defenders will get out of the paint after five seconds.

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                • El_Poopador
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 2624

                  #9
                  Re: defensive 3 second rule

                  Originally posted by de_jesus
                  Look I am going to say this, if an issue that appears to be this small gets through the devs may have trouble implementing the rule in its truest form without impacting the game negatively. Hell maybe they are generous about it because they know animations could get you caught up unintentionally


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                  This is what they do, but it negatively impacts the game. Plays don't develop properly, and it closes off a lot of openings that would normally exist for the offense. On the other end, it makes it very difficult to play good defense when the CPU can sit in the paint for a quarter of the shot clock. It's been one of my biggest issues with the game for a while.

                  Quick example: Ilyasova gets the ball in the paint, with me guarding him. He sits in the paint for 5 and a half seconds before passing the ball back out and leaving, with no call. I've given up a lot of points this way because I play it like the call will come after three seconds.



                  I didn't do it this time, but oftentimes I will jump for a block after about 2 and a half seconds, anticipating the shot to avoid the 3 second call, only to have them dribble around me for an open layup using those extra three seconds.
                  Last edited by El_Poopador; 10-08-2018, 10:51 AM.

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                  • michaelbluth5
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Re: defensive 3 second rule

                    A couple requirements need to be met for the defensive 3 in the key count to start and there are some actions that freeze the defensive 3 in the key count. I learnt from this video and it made my defensive rotations way more effective and the odd time I can set up my offense to catch the opposing player over helping to get some easy techs.


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                    • Quentin32
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 546

                      #11
                      Re: defensive 3 second rule

                      Originally posted by El_Poopador
                      This is what they do, but it negatively impacts the game. Plays don't develop properly, and it closes off a lot of openings that would normally exist for the offense. On the other end, it makes it very difficult to play good defense when the CPU can sit in the paint for a quarter of the shot clock. It's been one of my biggest issues with the game for a while.

                      Quick example: Ilyasova gets the ball in the paint, with me guarding him. He sits in the paint for 5 and a half seconds before passing the ball back out and leaving, with no call. I've given up a lot of points this way because I play it like the call will come after three seconds.



                      I didn't do it this time, but oftentimes I will jump for a block after about 2 and a half seconds, anticipating the shot to avoid the 3 second call, only to have them dribble around me for an open layup using those extra three seconds.
                      Look like he got in the paint wit 17 on the shot clock and passed at 13. No ref irl calls it exactly at 3 seconds.

                      We need another vid

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                      • ImInThis
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 380

                        #12
                        Re: defensive 3 second rule

                        People still playing offball in Play Now, Fn pathetic.

                        Op your best bet may be to run plays or at least call for screens

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                        • loso_34
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1352

                          #13
                          Re: defensive 3 second rule

                          its cause of all those holding animations and other animations in the paint. they gotta play out.

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                          • tru11
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1816

                            #14
                            Re: defensive 3 second rule

                            Bruh this thread from 2018 lol.



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                            • tril
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 2915

                              #15
                              Re: defensive 3 second rule

                              I see the defensive 3 seconds called alot. I dont think its broken. Ill see anywhere from 1-3 a game. some games its not called.

                              The offensive 3 second call is very hit or miss, especially on the cpu controlled teams. if anything that is what needs to be tuned.

                              personally I like some inconsistencies in the way refs in 2k call the games. it adds a bit of the human element.

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