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  • MBMavs20
    Pro
    • Oct 2002
    • 939

    #1

    MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

    Here is my updated 2018 Pitch Edit spreadsheet. It has every pitcher listed who threw a pitch in 2018. (except position players)

    If you see a glaring mistake or someone missing, please let me know.

    I use my own formula for movement and control ratings. The Pitch classification and MPH's are provided by Brooksbaseball.net.

    Enjoy.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA
  • comebackkid
    Rookie
    • Jun 2015
    • 50

    #2
    Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

    amazing! thank you very much!

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    • Cavicchi
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 2841

      #3
      Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

      I don't understand why you gave Kopech a RFB at 95 and slider at 81 when his fastball is shown at 97.2 and slider at 84.1 on Brooksbaseball.net

      I also looked at Severino and saw that you gave him an 88 mph slurve, and then I stopped looking. His slider shows lots of horizontal movement, and I don't see that as a slurve.

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      • MBMavs20
        Pro
        • Oct 2002
        • 939

        #4
        Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

        Originally posted by Cavicchi
        I don't understand why you gave Kopech a RFB at 95 and slider at 81 when his fastball is shown at 97.2 and slider at 84.1 on Brooksbaseball.net

        I also looked at Severino and saw that you gave him an 88 mph slurve, and then I stopped looking. His slider shows lots of horizontal movement, and I don't see that as a slurve.
        Kopech averages 97.2 on his fastball for his career. if you go to the drop down tab on the left hand side of the screen you can pick his pitching stats for each year. If you look at 2018, his fastball was 95.74 and his Slider was 81.11

        Severino's Slider in 2018 had 5.9 inches of horizontal movement. I gave him a Slurve based on personal preference. Sliders generally have 3-5 inches of horizontal movement but if the Slider movement rating is too high they start to look like Curveballs and it feels unrealistic.

        Severino's Slider in 2015 had 2.98 Inches of Horizontal movement. In 2016, 4.34 inches. In 2017, 3.85 inches, and in 2018 5.9 inches. Seems to break more each year.

        My preference is any Slider with more than 5 inches of movement I like to use a Slurve.
        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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        • Cavicchi
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 2841

          #5
          Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

          Originally posted by MBMavs20
          Kopech averages 97.2 on his fastball for his career. if you go to the drop down tab on the left hand side of the screen you can pick his pitching stats for each year. If you look at 2018, his fastball was 95.74 and his Slider was 81.11

          Severino's Slider in 2018 had 5.9 inches of horizontal movement. I gave him a Slurve based on personal preference. Sliders generally have 3-5 inches of horizontal movement but if the Slider movement rating is too high they start to look like Curveballs and it feels unrealistic.

          Severino's Slider in 2015 had 2.98 Inches of Horizontal movement. In 2016, 4.34 inches. In 2017, 3.85 inches, and in 2018 5.9 inches. Seems to break more each year.

          My preference is any Slider with more than 5 inches of movement I like to use a Slurve.
          The only reason Kopech's fastball was down this year was probably due to arm trouble--he is out for 2019. Recovering from September 2018 Tommy John surgery--Underwent Tommy John surgery Sept. 18, 2018

          The slurve does not have that kind of horizontal movement: https://lokeshdhakar.com/baseball-pitches-illustrated/

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          • MBMavs20
            Pro
            • Oct 2002
            • 939

            #6
            Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

            Originally posted by Cavicchi
            The only reason Kopech's fastball was down this year was probably due to arm trouble--he is out for 2019. Recovering from September 2018 Tommy John surgery--Underwent Tommy John surgery Sept. 18, 2018

            The slurve does not have that kind of horizontal movement: https://lokeshdhakar.com/baseball-pitches-illustrated/
            Yes, his fastball was down last year. That's why I gave him 95 and not 97. I was basing it on just 2018 and not his career.

            When you use meter pitching in MLB like I do, once you pick a pitch, you will see the little symbols like this >>>>> pop up. It will tell you the break of that pitch.

            In the Show, ever since I have been playing, the Slurve has more horizontal break on it than the Slider. That is why I use it.

            The Diagram on the site you posted has the Slurve looking and breaking more vertical than horizontal. Not the same in the Show.

            If you don't like the Slurve than use a Slider. Everyone has their own preference.

            Some prefer the Sinker over the 2 Seam, some like 12-6 curves over regular Curves, some like Running Fastballs over 4 Seams. That's the beauty of it, you can edit it to your liking.

            However, I don't appreciate the "After I saw the 88 MPH Slurve for Severino I stopped looking..." You can always do your own edits. :-)
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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            • Cavicchi
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2841

              #7
              Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

              Originally posted by MBMavs20
              Yes, his fastball was down last year. That's why I gave him 95 and not 97. I was basing it on just 2018 and not his career.

              When you use meter pitching in MLB like I do, once you pick a pitch, you will see the little symbols like this >>>>> pop up. It will tell you the break of that pitch.

              In the Show, ever since I have been playing, the Slurve has more horizontal break on it than the Slider. That is why I use it.

              The Diagram on the site you posted has the Slurve looking and breaking more vertical than horizontal. Not the same in the Show.

              If you don't like the Slurve than use a Slider. Everyone has their own preference.

              Some prefer the Sinker over the 2 Seam, some like 12-6 curves over regular Curves, some like Running Fastballs over 4 Seams. That's the beauty of it, you can edit it to your liking.

              However, I don't appreciate the "After I saw the 88 MPH Slurve for Severino I stopped looking..." You can always do your own edits. :-)
              Up until August 23 of this year, Kopech's fastball averaged 97.2 on Brooksbaseball.net

              You can put him at 95 mph, but in my opinion, that is not the real representation of Kopech.

              As for Severino, There are many pitchers who throw sliders with lots of movement, so you are going to give them all slurves. I give a slider to Severino and any other pitcher that has movement representing a slider.

              The slurves I see in the game look like what is in the diagram I posted to you.

              But hey, I'm old, maybe others see it like you.

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              • MBMavs20
                Pro
                • Oct 2002
                • 939

                #8
                Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                Just wanted to update everyone. I finally got the game and I am downloading it as I type this.

                I plan on updating my spreadsheet as the season progresses, just like last year. KKralle7277 was kind enough to post which rookies were called up so I could add them to the spreadsheet once they pitched in a couple of games. If he wants to do it again, it would be a big help.

                The following pitchers did not pitch in the Major Leagues last year so they are not currently on my 2018 spreadsheet:

                Nate Karns - Orioles
                Ben Heller - Yankees
                Trent Thornton - Blue Jays
                Elvis Luciano - Blue Jays
                David Phelps - Blue Jays
                Manny Banuelos - White Sox
                Danny Salazar - Indians
                Reed Garrett - Tigers
                Kyle Zimmer - Royals
                Chris Ellis - Royals
                Jesse Hahn - Royals
                Michael Pineda - Twins
                Ryne Harper - Twins
                Jharel Cotton - A's
                Yusei Kikuchi - Mariners
                Brandon Brennan - Mariners
                Edinson Volquez - Rangers
                Drew Smyly - Rangers
                Kyle Dowdy - Rangers
                Francis Martes - Astros
                Nick Anderson - Marlins
                Julian Fernandez - Marlins
                Riley Ferrell - Marlins
                Trevor Rosenthal - Nationals
                Jimmy Nelson - Brewers
                Merrill Kelly - Diamondbacks
                Chris Paddack - Padres
                Dinelson Lamet - Padres
                Travis Bergen - Giants

                Some are rookies about to make their Major League debut, some were injured and did not pitch at all last year. Pitchers who missed last year because of Tommy John surgery will be on my 2017 pitch edits spreadsheet so you can use that data until I get some new data this year.

                As always, feedback is welcome. Pitch edits, to me, are the heart and soul of a pitcher and I always want to make them as close to the Big Leagues as possible.

                Enjoy the pitch edits guys and get editing. BASEBALL IS BACK!!
                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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                • trusaleen1
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 384

                  #9
                  Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                  Originally posted by MBMavs20
                  Just wanted to update everyone. I finally got the game and I am downloading it as I type this.

                  I plan on updating my spreadsheet as the season progresses, just like last year. KKralle7277 was kind enough to post which rookies were called up so I could add them to the spreadsheet once they pitched in a couple of games. If he wants to do it again, it would be a big help.

                  The following pitchers did not pitch in the Major Leagues last year so they are not currently on my 2018 spreadsheet:

                  Nate Karns - Orioles
                  Ben Heller - Yankees
                  Trent Thornton - Blue Jays
                  Elvis Luciano - Blue Jays
                  David Phelps - Blue Jays
                  Manny Banuelos - White Sox
                  Danny Salazar - Indians
                  Reed Garrett - Tigers
                  Kyle Zimmer - Royals
                  Chris Ellis - Royals
                  Jesse Hahn - Royals
                  Michael Pineda - Twins
                  Ryne Harper - Twins
                  Jharel Cotton - A's
                  Yusei Kikuchi - Mariners
                  Brandon Brennan - Mariners
                  Edinson Volquez - Rangers
                  Drew Smyly - Rangers
                  Kyle Dowdy - Rangers
                  Francis Martes - Astros
                  Nick Anderson - Marlins
                  Julian Fernandez - Marlins
                  Riley Ferrell - Marlins
                  Trevor Rosenthal - Nationals
                  Jimmy Nelson - Brewers
                  Merrill Kelly - Diamondbacks
                  Chris Paddack - Padres
                  Dinelson Lamet - Padres
                  Travis Bergen - Giants

                  Some are rookies about to make their Major League debut, some were injured and did not pitch at all last year. Pitchers who missed last year because of Tommy John surgery will be on my 2017 pitch edits spreadsheet so you can use that data until I get some new data this year.

                  As always, feedback is welcome. Pitch edits, to me, are the heart and soul of a pitcher and I always want to make them as close to the Big Leagues as possible.

                  Enjoy the pitch edits guys and get editing. BASEBALL IS BACK!!
                  Which roster will you be using this year? Really have enjoyed your edits the last few years and have manually plugged them in

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                  • MBMavs20
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 939

                    #10
                    Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                    Originally posted by trusaleen1
                    Which roster will you be using this year? Really have enjoyed your edits the last few years and have manually plugged them in
                    I think I will wait for the CRP rosters and see how they turn out. In the past I liked to do my own rosters but it just takes too much time.

                    Have you tried the True Sim Rosters?

                    Glad you enjoy the pitch edits.
                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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                    • JDiaz1
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 193

                      #11
                      Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                      I am currently working on entering these pitches into the CRP roster while making equipment edits along the way. I will not be able to work on it for a few days, so if anyone would like to help out and take over to enter a few teams, I can upload what I have so far (I have every pitcher from Baltimore to Cleveland done, including equipment edits and some windup edits).

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                      • KKralle7277
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 136

                        #12
                        Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                        Originally posted by MBMavs20
                        Just wanted to update everyone. I finally got the game and I am downloading it as I type this.

                        I plan on updating my spreadsheet as the season progresses, just like last year. KKralle7277 was kind enough to post which rookies were called up so I could add them to the spreadsheet once they pitched in a couple of games. If he wants to do it again, it would be a big help.

                        The following pitchers did not pitch in the Major Leagues last year so they are not currently on my 2018 spreadsheet:

                        Nate Karns - Orioles
                        Ben Heller - Yankees
                        Trent Thornton - Blue Jays
                        Elvis Luciano - Blue Jays
                        David Phelps - Blue Jays
                        Manny Banuelos - White Sox
                        Danny Salazar - Indians
                        Reed Garrett - Tigers
                        Kyle Zimmer - Royals
                        Chris Ellis - Royals
                        Jesse Hahn - Royals
                        Michael Pineda - Twins
                        Ryne Harper - Twins
                        Jharel Cotton - A's
                        Yusei Kikuchi - Mariners
                        Brandon Brennan - Mariners
                        Edinson Volquez - Rangers
                        Drew Smyly - Rangers
                        Kyle Dowdy - Rangers
                        Francis Martes - Astros
                        Nick Anderson - Marlins
                        Julian Fernandez - Marlins
                        Riley Ferrell - Marlins
                        Trevor Rosenthal - Nationals
                        Jimmy Nelson - Brewers
                        Merrill Kelly - Diamondbacks
                        Chris Paddack - Padres
                        Dinelson Lamet - Padres
                        Travis Bergen - Giants

                        Some are rookies about to make their Major League debut, some were injured and did not pitch at all last year. Pitchers who missed last year because of Tommy John surgery will be on my 2017 pitch edits spreadsheet so you can use that data until I get some new data this year.

                        As always, feedback is welcome. Pitch edits, to me, are the heart and soul of a pitcher and I always want to make them as close to the Big Leagues as possible.

                        Enjoy the pitch edits guys and get editing. BASEBALL IS BACK!!

                        I’m down to help again. Of these guys I think you can update a few now that they have pitched.

                        Trent Thornton TOR
                        Brandon Brennan SEA
                        Yusei Kikuchi SEA
                        Merrill Kelly AZ
                        Chris Paddack SDG
                        Nick Margevicius SDG

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                        • MBMavs20
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 939

                          #13
                          Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                          Thanks a lot KKralle7277. It will definitely help.

                          I will be updating the new pitchers in the next few days. Just want some of the starters to get a couple of starts under their belts.
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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                          • SFCFeagin
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 226

                            #14
                            Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                            Any idea when you are going to add the players that did not pitch in 18?

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                            • MBMavs20
                              Pro
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 939

                              #15
                              Re: MBMAVS 2018 Updated Pitch Edits

                              Originally posted by SFCFeagin
                              Any idea when you are going to add the players that did not pitch in 18?
                              I will start adding them this week. Some of the relievers have enough innings pitched so far but I wanted to try and get at least 3 starts from the starting pitchers I need to add, whether they are rookies or pitchers who were injured last year and did not pitch.
                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6F...NqUUPnStADmhnA

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