The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

**Poke** · 12-10-2018, 03:48 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Originally posted by Kushmir

And let me correct myself, these really aren't 50/50 balls. They're really more like 80/20 balls, but really examining the plays and looking at defender reactions I think I know the culprit: its almost as if they aren't aware of the ball if it isn't attached to an offensive player.

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They should recover the vast majority of their good defensive plays but they get a block, deflection or a strip and then simply watch as the offensive player goes after it--or worse, the block will go right back into the shooter's hands, or my personal fave: they'll try to pick up the ball--and miss. [emoji849]

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Keep in mind this happens both OFFLINE and ONLINE and many of us used to think it was the computer "cheating" but after some research I think its an issue with defenders. The crazy part is that overall defense doesn't have nearly the amount of issues if the players didn't go all catatonic after making a great defensive play.

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The sooner this gets addressed the better.

What about the steals issue when the ball is poked loose and the offensive player gets stuck in that darn awful animation before attempting to recover it. This annoys the hell out of me because the defensive players gets a 2-3 second advantage

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**Pappy Knuckles** · 12-10-2018, 04:49 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

This is a good thread and something that needs to be addressed because it's been a problem for a long time. So much so that I won't get into you playing off-ball D haha.

**ksuttonjr76** · 12-10-2018, 05:00 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

This situation has been a pet peeve of mine since about NBA 2K17. I want to say that NBA 2K16 had the same problems, but I don't remember off the top of head. Examples 12, 7, and 5 are the ones that ESPECIALLY grind the nerves, because the offense ends up in a BETTER scoring position than they were before the defense deflected the ball.

Blocks going back to the offensive players is definitely a problem too. That's basically an extra possession, and there's no real penalty for getting blocked.

**Bahnzo** · 12-10-2018, 05:35 PM

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I posted this awhile back, I think it's pretty relevant here. Gotta laugh here. Three of my guys around him, and his back is turned, but the magic ball comes right back to him. I should've let this recording go, because of course you know he put it right back up for a score.

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**alabamarob** · 12-10-2018, 09:18 PM

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I think that the cpu on offense or defense is OP on loose balls.

**Kushmir** · 12-11-2018, 01:33 AM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles

This is a good thread and something that needs to be addressed because it's been a problem for a long time. So much so that I won't get into you playing off-ball D haha.

Thank you kindly [emoji23]

I'm pretty good on D tho. I defend the SG because OVERHELP leaves them open religiously and I don't dig open threes. It also helps because I make sure my worst defender isn't a fish lol.

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**ataman5** · 12-11-2018, 07:35 AM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Good thread and examples

**timhere1970** · 12-11-2018, 06:04 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Originally posted by Bahnzo

I posted this awhile back, I think it's pretty relevant here. Gotta laugh here. Three of my guys around him, and his back is turned, but the magic ball comes right back to him. I should've let this recording go, because of course you know he put it right back up for a score.

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I had something similar happen in the last 10 seconds of a tied game. Except, it was trae young getting the board twice over my bigs for the putback and win.

**aimlessgun** · 12-11-2018, 09:09 PM

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It's definitely not the CPU cheating vs the user, I watch a lot of CPU vs CPU games and offensive players recover far more balls than they should in general.

**tru11** · 12-12-2018, 09:16 AM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

badges broken crap

**ksuttonjr76** · 12-12-2018, 12:47 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Originally posted by tru11

badges broken crap

I've been saying that for YEARS, and from the time they were first introduced into the game! People will just whine about how the badges "differentiate" role, specialized, and superstar players. Hello! That's what the RATINGS are for!

**PelicansFan23** · 12-12-2018, 04:56 PM

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This is one of my biggest issues with 2k. It's been a problem for several years now. GOOD DEFENSE SHOULD BE REWARDED and on the opposite side BAD OFFENSE SHOULD BE PUNISHED. But consistently 2k punishes good defense and continues to give the ball to the offense who put up a bad shot. Its infuriating and a huge part of why this game is trash. The fact that they have been making this game for 20 years but can't fix these kinds of issues that continue to plague the gameplay year after year baffles me.

**timhere1970** · 12-12-2018, 05:47 PM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

I put hustle at 100 for human and 0 for CPU. I seem to get a few more blocks not going out of bounds or to the blocked team.

**Kushmir** · 12-13-2018, 01:13 AM

Re: The Defense has to recover 50/50 balls...

Close Game I had earlier today. Sure, I made clutch plays to win it and overcame a Flagrant Foul in the 4th qtr....but these plays--even though I benefited, really cheapen the experience. Good plays by the defense, followed by recoveries for the offense for easy scores.

I really hope this gets resolved in 2K20.

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