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  • rayb
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 218

    #1

    Ratings matter?

    Im a casual player who avoids online. This is my first NHL purchase in 4-5 years and was quite eager dive into it.

    My long time beef with EA is that player ratings seem to mean just about zilch. Im playing franchise mode right now with an expansion team and find EVERY player plays about the same and im getting more scoring from my 4th line grinders than anyone else. Can't distinguish scrub from star.

    Do I need to adjust a specific setting in order for "stars" to play like stars? or NHL 19 just another EA arcade sports game?

    Just find it frustrating. I know I can up the difficulty, but then have to deal with CPU 100% passing and the CPU taking away puck if I get too close ( even when behind me)
  • SuperGoalies
    MVP
    • Apr 2013
    • 3287

    #2
    Re: Ratings matter?

    am sad to say this, Ratings do matter, u know those bars u see at choosing screen on who has more offense and defense and goalies, pay attention to that, if its too low u gonna loose, so u need to go out and grab much higher forward or defense or goalies, I was waiting all year for someone to mention this, it was not in tell I started loosing when I started realising , omg ratings matter this year, u can't just put random's to together and expect to win.


    yes ratings matter, from my observation , its kinda like a competitive sim or competitive arcade style game now.


    which brings me u need to draft players who are competitive and who are leaders in locker room and mesh well in locker room and winning spirit, those who are not injurie prone, keep eye on moral meetings and locker rooms interactions.
    Last edited by SuperGoalies; 03-01-2019, 11:43 AM.

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    • SeattleBattleCat
      Pro
      • Nov 2017
      • 710

      #3
      Re: Ratings matter?

      I think you are referring to “player separation” where every player feels the same whether he is a 1st or 4th liner right?

      Go into settings and change the “Attribute Effects” slider from 5/10 to 10/10 if you haven’t done so already.
      You should get a sense of player difference then - it’s the setting I use.

      There’s always been a bit of conjecture in the forum here whether changing that slider does change players attributes at all or enough, but give it a try and see what you think.


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      • Cycloniac
        Man, myth, legend.
        • May 2009
        • 6508

        #4
        Re: Ratings matter?

        Originally posted by SeattleBattleCat
        I think you are referring to “player separation” where every player feels the same whether he is a 1st or 4th liner right?

        Go into settings and change the “Attribute Effects” slider from 5/10 to 10/10 if you haven’t done so already.
        You should get a sense of player difference then - it’s the setting I use.

        There’s always been a bit of conjecture in the forum here whether changing that slider does change players attributes at all or enough, but give it a try and see what you think.
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        • rayb
          Rookie
          • Aug 2012
          • 218

          #5
          Re: Ratings matter?

          thanks..will give it a try. Dont want to give up on it yet, but unfortunately im a stickler for "realism". Want bad teams to be bad, good teams to be good, etc.

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          • BleacherCreature
            MVP
            • Apr 2007
            • 3160

            #6
            Re: Ratings matter?

            Originally posted by rayb
            thanks..will give it a try. Dont want to give up on it yet, but unfortunately im a stickler for "realism". Want bad teams to be bad, good teams to be good, etc.


            If it’s realism you want you’re playing the wrong game.


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            • SuperGoalies
              MVP
              • Apr 2013
              • 3287

              #7
              Re: Ratings matter?

              Originally posted by SeattleBattleCat
              I think you are referring to “player separation” where every player feels the same whether he is a 1st or 4th liner right?

              Go into settings and change the “Attribute Effects” slider from 5/10 to 10/10 if you haven’t done so already.
              You should get a sense of player difference then - it’s the setting I use.

              There’s always been a bit of conjecture in the forum here whether changing that slider does change players attributes at all or enough, but give it a try and see what you think.


              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports




              not the correct answer, it doesn't matter if have attibutes at 10, u have to pay attention to bars of your team, and whose ever on your team , its competitive hockey, ratings matter, if u don't have good players u gonna loose to teams like toranto or arisona , I tried that this at least hundred times., no one realises it yet.

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              • Sauce12
                Rookie
                • Jun 2012
                • 308

                #8
                Re: Ratings matter?

                Originally posted by SuperGoalies
                not the correct answer, it doesn't matter if have attibutes at 10, u have to pay attention to bars of your team, and whose ever on your team , its competitive hockey, ratings matter, if u don't have good players u gonna loose to teams like toranto or arisona , I tried that this at least hundred times., no one realises it yet.
                Toranto, arisona, columbas, disingal, pannarin, mcquid. What's the matter with you?

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                • SuperGoalies
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 3287

                  #9
                  Re: Ratings matter?

                  am just saying u'd still loose, if put it at 10, u just make AI CPU even more harder that way, u'd just make them more smarter that way, I often debated just now, ratings do matter, and right players together, good chemistry , just because they have trade deadline rosters, doesn't mean u have right players there, u'd still need to go out scout players and find right pieces, this why I love NHL 19 so much, cause before ratings didn't matter, which why I often preached to them, make game harder and stuff, now that they did that.


                  game the way it is now, u need to find right pieces and stuff together, or u not gonna get championships, which why I do believe bar is there for reason to tell u who has a advantage over u, u need to have very big advantage to win championships, columbas blue jacks is overall ratings are good, 93-93-94 , sometimes they are 93-94-94, the way they made it now is just like HUT style , I kinda like the way game plays, but don't take rosters updates for granted, u'd still need to do a lot of work.

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                  • babaracus88
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 200

                    #10
                    Re: Ratings matter?

                    Supergoalies your not even talking about the same thing. what you are saying is correct but the original poster is saying, for example , that tyler motte (4th line player) for him is scoring or racking up points like he's Boeser or Pettersson. Ea sucks at ratings if Boeser and Pettersson are stars in the league then they should be rated 85-99 and play like they are where as tyler motte should be rated 65-70 and maybe be a decent skater and good defensively but his offense skills should be low. This would make it more realistic. When i have gone through the roster in the past and made the ratings for players realistic and created a difference in the ratings between the stars and the checking lines it actually is the best improvement you can make for your game. Sliders are good for tweaking the game but a realistic roster makes the game definitely playable. EA seriously could stop A LOT of the complaining about this game if they would allow roster sharing.

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                    • igolfbad
                      Cupcake on your schedule
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 208

                      #11
                      Re: Ratings matter?

                      Originally posted by Sauce12
                      Toranto, arisona, columbas, disingal, pannarin, mcquid. What's the matter with you?

                      ESL... [emoji851]


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                      • BleacherCreature
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 3160

                        #12
                        Re: Ratings matter?

                        This is why the attribute effect slider makes zero sense to me. If they got the ratings correct, AND made the players play to those ratings then there’d be no need for this slider. To me that slider basically means “we don’t know how to make ratings work, so here’s a slider. You guys figure it out.”


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                        • SuperGoalies
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3287

                          #13
                          Re: Ratings matter?

                          here's what EA Developer Said , when I asked him, yesterday.


                          Those high level summaries are just that, a summary of the players on your team. So those ratings matter but they are very high level. The individual attributes on a point by point basis for each player in each attribute category go into every mechanic in the game so those are actually what matter the most and if you really care are the detailed level you should be paying attention to.


                          from EA Developer to SuperGoalies ( EvanAshopenace)


                          here is my question to EA Developer before he answered


                          hey NHL Dev, my friends at Operation Sports asked very serious question, do ratings matter in NHL 19, cause at loading screen u see those bars on whose got advantage in offense and defense and goalies, I kinda told them, they do matter, to pay attention to those, bars, so can u confirm that it does matter, that u need to raise overall of the teams, to compete in franchise and be a pro, I think your answer would be satisfying to them, it would shed sum light on subject ?, am strictly offline gamer so are others., your answer would be great


                          Super Goalies to EA Developer (Before he responded)
                          Last edited by SuperGoalies; 03-02-2019, 10:43 AM.

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                          • BleacherCreature
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 3160

                            #14
                            Re: Ratings matter?

                            Those bars don’t mean that much. I just beat the Predators, as the Rangers with post deadline rosters and their offense and defense bars were higher than mine.


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                            • SuperGoalies
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 3287

                              #15
                              Re: Ratings matter?

                              just because u beat new York rangers, rangers are easy to beat, plus there ratings are low, I just tried to go up against Nashville and lost 6-3, I also notice this in with pittsburge, when u face pittsburge it turns into scoring match, I always loose 7-2 to pittsburge, rangers are very easy to beat, it also might depend on settings u have that makes them easy, I tried higher settings I found couldn't get 2 wins or 1 even , I always had like 2-5-1, so yah ratings matter, I ain't arguing with ea developer man, those are his words, there are times when I get 3 wins and I end up loosing 2 games afterwards.


                              so it might depend on settings u have, we shouldn't let 1 man sway whole community, there teams in NHL 19 that take me to cleaners, regardless of settings.


                              I also think AI Learning and CPU Strategy Adjustment and fight difficulty or size effect or cpu difficulty adjustment, have role in those losses.


                              I know for fact there sum settings u can't just crank up high, puck control and puck control rating (I like mine at 65-95) puck control 20-52, I always loose to AI CPU if have it at 65-77 ( puck control rating) that's my experience, so experiences may differ to one another.


                              now if its goalie mode that's another storie
                              Last edited by SuperGoalies; 03-02-2019, 05:06 PM.

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