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  • EUBlink
    heyoka
    • Dec 2005
    • 1036

    #1

    My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

    TLDR / I had neck surgery, nerve pain has already come back. Share your less fortunate and/or funny surgery experiences if you don't want to read about mine.

    I was hurt on-duty during the second half of last year... herniated discs that caused me to lose feeling in my left arm below the elbow and also brought constant, throbbing nerve pain from my spine, across my back/shoulder and down to my elbow. All fun and games until I need that left arm/side to be stronger when/if I'm in a fight, which happened several times. In the midst of all of this, I only missed three days of work from the end of September to the day of surgery, which I'll get to. Anyway, I went through nerve meds which were a nightmare, followed by PT that would help for a couple of hours each session, then had nerve blocks on three separate occasions. No luck with any of it, at least any relief that lasted more than a couple of hours. A couple weeks before surgery, I was in a foot pursuit that ended with me tackling the guy and landing rough/hard myself. He went to jail puking, as it was a long pursuit. I was hurting but I shrugged it off to the running. I was wrong. The doctor advised we go ahead with the final option, which was surgery.

    Last month, I had ACDF surgery... anterior cervical discectomy and fusion. If you aren't familiar, the simpler way of describing it is that the doctor made a 2.5-inch incision on the front right side of my throat, then went in and removed the damaged disc. At that point, a cage was installed between the vertebrae, followed by a plate that was screwed in to keep the cage in place. All of this is permanent. While in there, he found that a piece of the disc had broken off and was "floating" and had been causing considerable pressure on my spinal cord. Not sure how all that works, really. He's the doctor, I'm the guy hurting.

    I'm almost at three weeks post-surgery now, and the symptoms that the surgery was supposed to alleviate and hopefully eliminate... they've come back and with a vengeance. While I can feel my left arm where it used to be numb, now the throbbing nerve pain has extended down the arm as well. The majority of the pain pulses around the area I believe the plate is. I go for my first follow-up on March 12th, so I'll have more answers then.

    My purpose for posting is to see if anyone on OS has had the same surgery or similar, and your results. And while we're at it, we'll turn this into a constructive topic and discuss crazy surgeries we've had. I'll get into how I bit my tongue off earlier in my life later on. Fun times.
    Last edited by EUBlink; 03-06-2019, 04:19 AM. Reason: Didn't realize this was so long. My bad.
  • PVarck31
    Moderator
    • Jan 2003
    • 16869

    #2
    Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

    Oh man. This sounds horrible. I'm sorry man.

    I can't relate, but my dad suffered a permanent injury to his back during a high speed pursuit. He pitted the car and when he came to a stop another car hit the back of his cruiser at 50mph. The hazards of the job man.

    Hope things get better and you make a full recovery and get back out on the road.

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    • pietasterp
      All Star
      • Feb 2004
      • 6244

      #3
      Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

      Sorry to hear that, EUBlink. Unfortunately, when it comes to back pain/spinal pain/nerve-related pain, surgery is usually the last option because it frequently doesn't help at all. Unfortunately, that has been the case for you (although there's still hope things will get better of course).

      When it gets down to it, we really don't know that much about pain and the nervous system in general, and a lot of what we think we know is probably not entirely correct. Back pain/nerve pain is the worst, and it unfortunately is an area where there has been very little progress despite advances in almost every other aspect of medicine. Here's hoping that with time, things get better for you.

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #4
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        Not a similar surgery, but I'll share one of mine. I had to get my wisdom teeth removed a few years ago after getting an infection in my gums from one of them. They didn't put me under, just gave me a local anesthetic.

        Well they started pulling before the anesthetic kicked in. That didn't feel great. I cried out, doctor said "oops!", waited a few minutes then went back to work on it. I don't remember why they didn't put me out, but that was the worst experience. I could hear the teeth breaking from my jaw in my head.

        Two days after surgery I got strep throat.
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        • BurghFan
          #BurghProud
          • Jul 2009
          • 10046

          #5
          Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

          Not the surgery itself, but the lead up to it. Was my last ear surgery (I had about 10 total) in summer '95 so I was 14. I think my surgery was scheduled for around 10 that morning and they'd put some cream on my hands when I checked in and they did all the pre-op stuff to numb them so I wouldn't feel it when they started an IV to put me under. Well, apparently a piece of equipment broke in one of the ORs and they didn't take me up to the pre-op room until probably around 2 in the afternoon by which time my hands were freezing and all the veins were pretty much constricted. Suffice it to say, they couldn't start an IV after poking me at least 8 times (at least once between each pair of metacarpals on each hand). They were going to try the crock of my elbow but I started to freak out as I was afraid it would hurt a lot so they just took me to the OR awake and gave me nitrous oxide and were finally able to find a vein between my left 1st & 2nd metacarpals (didn't find that out until after I woke up). I actually ended up having bad anxiety/panic attacks when I needed to get blood drawn for a few years after that, though strangely subcutaneous or intramuscular vaccine injections didn't bother me at all.
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          • T_Ramifications
            Rookie
            • Dec 2018
            • 24

            #6
            Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

            I tore my ACL when I was 13 while trying out for my middle school track team. Let's just say my entire experience was my nurse having to tell me to breath every minute in the recovery room as I was REALLY out of it

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            • XtremeDunkz
              CNFL Commissioner
              • Aug 2007
              • 3414

              #7
              Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

              Originally posted by Jr.
              Not a similar surgery, but I'll share one of mine. I had to get my wisdom teeth removed a few years ago after getting an infection in my gums from one of them. They didn't put me under, just gave me a local anesthetic.

              Well they started pulling before the anesthetic kicked in. That didn't feel great. I cried out, doctor said "oops!", waited a few minutes then went back to work on it. I don't remember why they didn't put me out, but that was the worst experience. I could hear the teeth breaking from my jaw in my head.

              Two days after surgery I got strep throat.

              Ahhh I got a tooth pulled and I know the sound you are referring to. It is the most unpleasant sound ever. And he also started pulling before it was fully working. Very painful.
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              • IrenePayne
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                • Aug 2020
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                #8
                Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                Hi, i was looking for some unsuccessful experiences on surgery. My sister had a rhinoplasty 6 month ago and she wasn't satisfied with the result. So we decided to look for another surgery center and we were so happy when we found one. We found a really good plastic surgery center with highly-qualified medical staff and all the medical devices were new. After a rhinoplasty the recovery process was really fast and everything was OK. I would suggest those 2 surgeons from that center for anyone who wants to change something in their look.
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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #9
                  Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                  Originally posted by IrenePayne
                  Hi, i was looking for some unsuccessful experiences on surgery. My sister had a rhinoplasty last month and now she's not satisfied with the result. What you'd recommend to do in this situation?
                  Do plastic surgeons have a satisfaction guaranteed policy?

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                  • JHamilton9
                    '94 World Series MVP
                    • May 2014
                    • 641

                    #10
                    Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                    Originally posted by IrenePayne
                    Hi, i was looking for some unsuccessful experiences on surgery. My sister had a rhinoplasty last month and now she's not satisfied with the result. What you'd recommend to do in this situation?

                    Honestly, I thought it took about 2 months for it to fully heal, the swelling to go down, and to be able to breath normally.

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                    • JMD
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4456

                      #11
                      Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                      Ok here goes. This story starts in 1975 I was 15. I was riding my bicycle through a school yard late at night , it was dark. I cut through a grassy / gravely area and didn't realize there were two metal upside down long U shaped things they mount the see saws on. I hit one at full speed , now I'm not riding any more I'm briefly flying , my bike was back at the metal thing. I landed and my face got pretty cut up on the gravel surface. This part of the story is important because this crash caused me develop a small blueish dot under my top lip which the Dr said was not big deal and should go away.

                      Fast forward to 2006 I was shaving and noticed a lump on the right side of my neck. I also had a slight sore throat so I went to the Doc. He send me to an ear , nose, and throat Dr and he took a sample from the lump. I mentioned to him that I also have this small bump on my upper lip (result of the bike crash in 75) that's been there for years (it was covered by my mustache , I had a goatee at the time.) He moved the hair out of the way and took a look and thought the two might be related and booked me a time to go into the hospital so he could open up the lip and have a look.

                      So we did that and the result was cancer. It started in the sweat gland in my upper lip and traveled to the lymph nodes in my neck. They quickly got me in for a full body scan because they feared it may have spread further , it didn't. It was officially stage 3 cancer.

                      2 days later I go in for surgery. They remove 40% of my upper lip and do a radical neck dissection removing 17 lymph nodes from the right side of my neck.

                      Ok here's the reason you've been reading this , you know the good part. after surgery I get moved to my room in the hospital. Now note that I am high as a kite on Demerol ( that **** is gooooood) also I can't really talk because well 40% of my upper lip was just removed. So the nurse has to come in every so often to give me antibiotics. She comes in takes the cap off the IV in my arm and connects the antibiotic machine up to it.

                      This happens all through the night , the problem after one of the sessions after the nurse leaves the room I'm lying there falling back to sleep but I feel this wetness on my right arm. I lift up my arm and it's covered in blood , I look down at the bed and there's a good amount of blood there as well. I start frantically pressing the nurse call button , nothing, so I start trying to yell , think of the Frankenstein monster trying to talk , that's what I sounded like. Ahhhh Ugggghh Hhaauggg. You see when the nurse removed the tube for the antibiotics she forgot to cap off the IV , so I'm bleeding out.

                      Finally the nurse comes in , sees the problem and quickly caps off the IV. Gets me out of the bed and changes the sheets and blankets. The next day when the Dr came in to check on me I told him what had happened. Turns out that was that nurses first night , it was also her last.

                      Two days later I went home, after things healed up I did 7 weeks of head and neck radiation therapy. I'm still here so I guess it all worked out. To this day I still have nerve pain on the right side of my neck though , small price to pay....

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                      • BurghFan
                        #BurghProud
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10046

                        #12
                        Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                        Pretty sure you posted that in another thread as I remember reading it, though I don't think you mentioned the bike crash part of it. I'm curious as to if the pathology report found foreign material in the lesion from you lip. Maybe a paint chip or somethig that embedded under your skin and the chemicals in the paint caused the cancer. Scary stuff though, and glad you're okay.
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                        • TNKNGM
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 6784

                          #13
                          Re: My ACDF surgery, your surgery experiences.

                          I had ACDF surgery in 2016 (hockey injury).....wouldn't hesitate to have the same procedure if needed again

                          I was in awful pain every single day and could barely turn my head....neck is 100x better post surgery. I waited like a year (typical idiot dude) thinking it would get better before finally realizing I had something very wrong going on

                          I was up walking 6 hours after surgery, went home next morning and was back on skates playing hockey 6 months later

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