Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA player?

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Would you rather have the system currently in place or the ability to work towards being any player rated 90 and under?

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[zello144]

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YES!!!!!!!

Do what the previous MLB the show games did in RTTS that allowed you to model your player after an MLB player. I think they removed that in MLB 19 though.

I'd love to see that in NBA 2K.

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Current system is trash IMO. They definitely need to either revamp it altogether or remove archetypes completely. They've failed to balance the game since Archetypes were introduced in NBA 2k17.

[Krucialist]

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They've failed to balance the game since Archetypes were introduced in NBA 2k17.

Letting us create players like real nba stars may be fun, but that doesn’t balance the game. That would just cause everyone to pick the “do everything” build for their positions. PGs would effectively all be steph because he can do everything you need a PG to do. SGs all become Jordan. SFs all become KD or Lebron. Bigs all become shaq, Hakeem, or KAT. There’s be no incentive to pick anything else.

Real life is balanced by the fact that only so many of these legendary players are available. In the game, there is no scarcity of superstar players. Every team wants a KD but there’s only one, and the warriors have him. If every team could create a Jordan to put on the roster, they would. In the game, we can do just that.

The archetypes aren’t balanced right now but letting us mimic real life players doesn’t fix balance. It probably makes it worse.

[kdurantmvp]

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Yup. Have like 20 current players and 20 legends where you can pick from.

That determines your height, weight, wingspan.

Their attributes become your attributes. So say if you pick Micheal Jordan, your mid range is 99 but your 3 is like 65. Your height is also 6'6. 190 pounds.

Badges are the same as that player as well. So if Jordan got defensive stopper on hall of fame, so can you once you earn the necessary requirements


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Letting us create players like real nba stars may be fun, but that doesn’t balance the game. That would just cause everyone to pick the “do everything” build for their positions. PGs would effectively all be steph because he can do everything you need a PG to do. SGs all become Jordan. SFs all become KD or Lebron. Bigs all become shaq, Hakeem, or KAT. There’s be no incentive to pick anything else.

Real life is balanced by the fact that only so many of these legendary players are available. In the game, there is no scarcity of superstar players. Every team wants a KD but there’s only one, and the warriors have him. If every team could create a Jordan to put on the roster, they would. In the game, we can do just that.

The archetypes aren’t balanced right now but letting us mimic real life players doesn’t fix balance. It probably makes it worse.

I agree 100%. The community will find the best META and run with it.

[BasketBalla21]

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The archetypes aren’t balanced right now but letting us mimic real life players doesn’t fix balance. It probably makes it worse.

I beg to differ. 2k16's ProAm was much more balanced than 17 and onward when everyone could make more do-it-all players. The only reason stretch bigs are as overpowered as they are now has a lot to do with every arch that isn't a defender having a sub-par shot contest rating and bad defensive ratings with bronze defensive badges(if any).

If the goal of MyCareer is to be an all-time great, then we need the option to be an all-time great. 2k has a player DNA feature already. Just plug that into MyCareer and correctly adjust progression systems.

If people are running MJ meta then you could just meet it with a Kawhi, Pippen, Lebron, Paul George type build. Evening the field more actually destroys meta. Because it becomes harder to make a build more effective than the others.

My only concern is that 2k won't properly scale actual player's styles. MJ shouldn't have deep range deadeye, Steph shouldn't have posterizer, etc.

[Krucialist]

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If the goal of MyCareer is to be an all-time great, then we need the option to be an all-time great. 2k has a player DNA feature already. Just plug that into MyCareer and correctly adjust progression systems.

If people are running MJ meta then you could just meet it with a Kawhi, Pippen, Lebron, Paul George type build. Evening the field more actually destroys meta. Because it becomes harder to make a build more effective than the others.

You can already make an all time great in my career mode. I started ball hogging in career mode to grind out my badges and I’m averaging roughly 60 pts a game on 8 min quarters. At the rate I’m going, I’m a lock for rookie of the year, the all star game, mvp, finals mvp, and there’s no reason why I can’t keep it up for 10 years straight in the game, outside of my own boredom stopping me.

As for picking a kawhi build to counter a Jordan build. Why? Why wouldn’t you just pick a Jordan build to counter a Jordan build? They both have HOF
Defensive stopper, but Jordan is the better offensive player. And that is my whole point to begin with. If we can create players that mimic the all time greats, then there is no reason not to pick the greatest players at each position that could do everything, and then everyone becomes the same, unless you choose to intentionally disadvantage yourself by picking an objectively lesser build. And it’s not even about what you would pick yourself, because the rest of the community would optimize and only pick the best players as their archetypes.

Even in the land of OP sharps, we still see more variety in archetypes now, than under the proposed system of picking real players, where every single wing becomes Jordan because he’s objectively the best choice for almost every situation.

[BasketBalla21]

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You can already make an all time great in my career mode. I started ball hogging in career mode to grind out my badges and I’m averaging roughly 60 pts a game on 8 min quarters. At the rate I’m going, I’m a lock for rookie of the year, the all star game, mvp, finals mvp, and there’s no reason why I can’t keep it up for 10 years straight in the game, outside of my own boredom stopping me.

This was revealed a while ago, but if you put a 99 MyPlayer's stats on a created player in the base game your ACTUAL stats are nowhere near 99. You are playing with a limited player. You're not even close to an all time great like Hakeem or MJ.

Also, you can dominate MyCareer with a 70 rated player. Probably even a 60 rated player. I had to be extremely disciplined to not average a triple double with my 75 rated SF playmaker.

As for picking a kawhi build to counter a Jordan build. Why? Why wouldn’t you just pick a Jordan build to counter a Jordan build? They both have HOF
Defensive stopper, but Jordan is the better offensive player. And that is my whole point to begin with. If we can create players that mimic the all time greats, then there is no reason not to pick the greatest players at each position that could do everything, and then everyone becomes the same, unless you choose to intentionally disadvantage yourself by picking an objectively lesser build. And it’s not even about what you would pick yourself, because the rest of the community would optimize and only pick the best players as their archetypes.

Because everyone doesn't WANT to play with a Jordan build. I would prefer to play with a Kawhi build over Jordan just for the simple fact that he won't be the meta.

Kawhi is taller and a better catch and shoot player than Jordan so there are benefits. It's all about CHOICE.

Even in the land of OP sharps, we still see more variety in archetypes now, than under the proposed system of picking real players, where every single wing becomes Jordan because he’s objectively the best choice for almost every situation.

There has never been a system of picking real players so how can you compare? I'm pretty sure that you will see more Ray Allens than Jordan if this system is implemented. Do you really keep up with the meta? Steph would probably dominate the meta with comp players.

The meta for the past 3 years has been to surround a playmaking PG(most likely a play sharp) with 3 shooters and a glass cleaner. Comp players would see a Jordan build as a liability. If it wasn't for the shooting sliders being so lenient you wouldn't see teams run lockdown defenders either, at least no pure locks.

[Krucialist]

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So long story short, you think the game would be more balanced if our created players could be more highly rated, just like real life players?

[BasketBalla21]

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It's the easiest solution to the current problem imo.

[kdurantmvp]

Re: Would you be fine with your MyPlayer being an archetype based on a real NBA playe

If you think this current 2k fan base would make A Jordan build a meta, I need the weed you smoking.


Jordan can't hit a three like Klay or Harden. And to the2k fanbase, if you can't hit a three, you a liability


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[Chemthethriller]

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If you think this current 2k fan base would make A Jordan build a meta, I need the weed you smoking.


Jordan can't hit a three like Klay or Harden. And to the2k fanbase, if you can't hit a three, you a liability


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Probably would see more trae young builds than Jordan

[howardphillips214]

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Jordan was a career 37% 3 point shooter. Lets not act like the man was broke.

Spacing wasn't at all the way it is today. Give Jordan a 4 who can stretch the floor and play defense like AD or KAT and i bet he shoots better from everywhere.

Give me a 99 dunk, midrange, a 70 three ball, a 70 ball handling, HOF defensive ratings?

Cheese.

I think the archetype system is here to stay tho.