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  • canes21
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 22949

    #1

    Canes Patch

    Yea, it's pretty late to be sharing this, but better late than never. I'll try to keep this short as can be. What my mod aims to achieve is realistic gameplay that challenges you and never feels artificially hard. It probably feels much more similar to Sabo's Rebirth Mod since we went back and forth working on our mods on a daily basis for a long time before I had life take me away from working on my mod as much.

    My buddy and I are in season 4 of our CFM and have used this since the beginning. I've somehow made the playoffs all 3 completed seasons despite going 9-7 in two of the years, but my record in the playoffs is 1-3. He has failed to even finish .500 with the Dolphins to this point.

    I tried really hard to get the game feeling more like 2k football in my eyes and think I've done an alright job and is why I am finally sharing this mod. This mod is not meant to compete with the other mods, but just simply offer something else for you all to try and see if it does give you a good game of football that challenges you and never feels cheap.

    Some things you will notice off of the bat are that the passing velocities are lower than default and have wider ranges so stronger armed QB's will actually feel stronger. The OL's will not be near as dominant in the run or pass game for the user or CPU and higher rated linemen will matter more. Don't expect 90+ overall linemen to give you 5+ seconds in the pocket anymore like Madden likes. Your good OL is going to give you a more realistic 3-4 seconds unless you have extra help. Your worse OL's are going ti give you 2-3 seconds depending on protection and the DL obviously. Expect the Mack's and Donald's of the league to be in your face quickly on a regular basis unless you work to slow them.

    As always, this is a continuous work in process even near 4 season later. There will always be things that need to be tuned. If these even give just 2 or 3 people something they really enjoy then I will be happy.

    For sliders, I use default 50 for everything except Interceptions are at 40 for both User and CPU. Also, FG Accuracy is 38 right now for us, but I'd recommend going to 40 as it seems the CPU is a little too inaccurate at 38 right now. THIS IS ON ALL-MADDEN!!

    2.75 out now. The mod now works on All Pro, too, and I think it works real well if not better there with a few minor slider changes. If you play on All-Pro put both interceptions at 45, both FG accuracies at 46, USER run block at 40, CPU run block at 70, CPU pass block at 55. Tune from there to fit personal preferences.



    Last edited by canes21; 06-12-2019, 04:21 PM.
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  • Darth Aegis
    Lord of Suffering
    • Jul 2012
    • 4169

    #2
    Re: Canes Patch

    Definitely looking forward to giving it a shot. I'm kinda out of the Madden mode at the moment with Madden 20 drawing closer. With all the games you've played (battle tested) & the work you stuck into this, I'm going to check it out. Thanks in advance!
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    • SpectreBugg
      Sim or Nothing
      • Jan 2007
      • 499

      #3
      Re: Canes Patch

      Just a quick question. What is the .archive file for?
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      • canes21
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 22949

        #4
        Re: Canes Patch

        Here is a video of me playing. A little open first quarter, then the offenses fell into a lull for most the rest of the game. The audio you will hear is me reliving the few good memories of the Mark Richt era at Miami on one of my other monitors.



        <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?autoplay=false&video=v424825885" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" width="620" height="378" frameborder="0"></iframe>Watch Madden 19 PC - Canes Patch from PichardRetty on www.twitch.tv
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        • NINJAK2
          *S *dd*ct
          • Jan 2003
          • 6185

          #5
          Re: Canes Patch

          Cane,

          Do I need to download and install the archive file as well or just the other file? Did you adjust any penalty settings?
          EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22949

            #6
            Re: Canes Patch

            The mod is installed the same way as any other gameplay mod. Penalties were touched and should happen at a frequency closer to real life.
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            • NINJAK2
              *S *dd*ct
              • Jan 2003
              • 6185

              #7
              Re: Canes Patch

              Ok. So I should leave all penalty sliders on default?
              EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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              • canes21
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 22949

                #8
                Re: Canes Patch

                User preference. I think there are a realistic amount of penalties with everything on default, but you may always have a different experience with them. I'd recommend starting with them at 50, but if you see any penalties occurring too much or too little then adjust how you see fit.
                “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                ― Plato

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                • badazzleroybrown
                  Rookie
                  • May 2013
                  • 223

                  #9
                  Re: Canes Patch

                  well this mod is different for sure i thought i was imagining the 6 million dollar man game play as i felt in slow mo lol but it is different for sure i think the only thing that really threw me off was when i went to go kick and the meter was so fast my eye balls fell out . keep up the good work

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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22949

                    #10
                    Re: Canes Patch

                    Originally posted by badazzleroybrown
                    well this mod is different for sure i thought i was imagining the 6 million dollar man game play as i felt in slow mo lol but it is different for sure i think the only thing that really threw me off was when i went to go kick and the meter was so fast my eye balls fell out . keep up the good work

                    Haha, yes, the kick meter is faster than default. It doesn't take too long to get used to, in my opinion. I was trying to find anyway to make the FG kicking in the game difficult, but we've tried multiple different things in the editor and it just seems impossible to make FG's accurately hard without lowering the slider which in turn makes the CPU unrealistically poor at kicking.
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                    • teremaster
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                      • May 2018
                      • 10

                      #11
                      Re: Canes Patch

                      Stupid question incoming but which file do i use?

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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22949

                        #12
                        Re: Canes Patch

                        Originally posted by teremaster
                        Stupid question incoming but which file do i use?

                        It is installed like any other mod. Download both files, move them to your mod folder, and then apply the mod in Frosty.
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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22949

                          #13
                          Re: Canes Patch

                          I'm not sure if anyone is using this mod, but I did recently do a minor update to get to v2.5. Since I've never really gone into detail what exactly was changed, I will try now to list as much as I can think of off the top of my head, but more or less there isn't really anything not tinkered with in Frosty.

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                          The whole aim of this mod was to take away any bonuses the CPU or USER had. It was to put you and the CPU on equal footing in every aspect from reaction times in the rushing and passing attack to the time in the pocket, the size of holes in the rushing game, etc. I aimed to get everything happening in as realistic manner as I could while not killing any logic for the CPU. For example, going as tight as possible in coverage without introducing route mirroring and also not making it so tight the CPU refuses to ever throw the ball. Everything also still needed to be fun and viable while also remaining difficult to be consistent at unless you had a great team/player.


                          I did not try to make anything artificially hard just to get realistic results. Everything was tuned to look real, feel real, and behave real. While the game is much better in my mind, it isn't perfect. While I feel I struck a great balance at the line in getting smaller holes and also limiting insta-sheds to a more realistic amount, some of you may think it is still tuned inappropriately. That is fine. Like I said, I know I am posting this mod late, I know most are probably going to stick with Nectar or Sabo's Rebirth mod and that is fine. I don't see myself as competing with those two. They have each done great things and followed their own visions. My mod is simply there for those who want to try something new for whatever reason. I'm happy if even 1 other person on this board is using the patch and loving the way the game plays now. If not, oh well, I still enjoy it, so does my buddy in the CFM. It has made Madden more enjoyable for us.


                          The first post in the thread will have a link to the v2.5 download, but I'll put it under here as well. Just download the file, unzip it, then add the mod to your Frost Mod Manager like any other mod you'd download. If anyone wants me to upload the project file so they can look at the values then I'll gladly do it.


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                          • triplethepugg
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Re: Canes Patch

                            Hey so I've been testing this mod out, and one question. What is up with the user player speed? It feels really slow

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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22949

                              #15
                              Re: Canes Patch

                              Originally posted by triplethepugg
                              Hey so I've been testing this mod out, and one question. What is up with the user player speed? It feels really slow

                              Offensively, defensively, both?
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