Body knee elbow spam

[Find_the_Door]

How is this still in the game - ran into nothing but Overeem bdoy knee elbow spammers all night long.

Is there a reliable defense to this absolute garbage that everyone resorts to or has this destroyed the game?

[tomitomitomi]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Pretty sure cross-lead uppercut is the popular counter.

[l The Spider l]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

The most reliable defense I find against it that I’ve seen no one else mention is timing a back moving jab or straight ast they try to knee or elbow, the back moving jab will stun them out of the knee and it will evade the elbow, you can use the back moving straight to get them to commit to the knee elbow after it hits their block and then you open up with a stationary combo n blast them works pretty well.

So to recap back moving jab for defensive purposes, back moving straight into stationary combo for offensive purposes

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

The most reliable defense I find against it that I’ve seen no one else mention is timing a back moving jab or straight ast they try to knee or elbow, the back moving jab will stun them out of the knee and it will evade the elbow, you can use the back moving straight to get them to commit to the knee elbow after it hits their block and then you open up with a stationary combo n blast them works pretty well.

So to recap back moving jab for defensive purposes, back moving straight into stationary combo for offensive purposes

Yes, the retreating jab works perfectly against the knees especially when they're coming forward.


I generally lunge the knee if it's coming forward to get them on the fence so I can initiate Over Under or Thai.

Catching the knee is good too, if I'm not planning to interrupt the combination with the straight lead upper, I'm aiming to catch the knee for a TD.

If somebody throws a knee slightly out of range, the low single is there 9 times out of 10.

[bmlimo]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Yes, the retreating jab works perfectly against the knees especially when they're coming forward.


I generally lunge the knee if it's coming forward to get them on the fence so I can initiate Over Under or Thai.

Catching the knee is good too, if I'm not planning to interrupt the combination with the straight lead upper, I'm aiming to catch the knee for a TD.

If somebody throws a knee slightly out of range, the low single is there 9 times out of 10.

I know there are counters man, but it’s so ****ed up this beeing a super effective strategy, in Xbox we have top 10 players losing to those guys... hopefully they will patch this **** out for ufc 4...

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

I know there are counters man, but it’s so ****ed up this beeing a super effective strategy, in Xbox we have top 10 players losing to those guys... hopefully they will patch this **** out for ufc 4...

Sincere question: Does anybody actually go to practice mode and take the time to recognize the animation and practice for about 30-40 minutes? Or do they just go straight to Ranked? I practice the counters I use.

If top 10 players on Xbox are losing to Knee Elbow 'spam' , I'm surprised because the majority of that playerbase love to throw 4 pieces like Jab Uppercut hook straight, straight lead hook x2, Jab rear hook lead Uppercut Straight, and will LOVE to focus on throwing nothing but those strikes to destroy the block, yet they're panicking over two strikes.

Knee Elbow isn't something that can be landed at step kick range. You can single collar clinch if they're too close and you know your entries, OU clinch as well. Nobody is flying across the Octagon throwing knees and elbows. (Most) People have no issue with 100+ strikes consisting of the same 3+4 hit combos, and won't call that spam, yet the knee elbow which has a lot of counters for it that are timing based, is only 2 strikes and it takes more out of the users stamina pool than punches.

There's nothing to patch out aside from maybe lowering the speed of the combination, but that would mean ALL combos need to be slowed down respectively.

Was Overreem spamming knees against Oleinik? Was Holloway spamming jabs against Poirier? Ask yourself those questions.

I would be more focused on better evasive maneuvers that won't be broken, the first thing I would want fixed is not having head movement frozen after your block is overcommitted.

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[Evil97]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Sincere question: Does anybody actually go to practice mode and take the time to recognize the animation and practice for about 30-40 minutes? Or do they just go straight to Ranked? I practice the counters I use.

If top 10 players on Xbox are losing to Knee Elbow 'spam' , I'm surprised because the majority of that playerbase love to throw 4 pieces like Jab Uppercut hook straight, straight lead hook x2, Jab rear hook lead Uppercut Straight, and will LOVE to focus on throwing nothing but those strikes to destroy the block, yet they're panicking over two strikes.

Knee Elbow isn't something that can be landed at step kick range. You can single collar clinch if they're too close and you know your entries, OU clinch as well. Nobody is flying across the Octagon throwing knees and elbows. (Most) People have no issue with 100+ strikes consisting of the same 3+4 hit combos, and won't call that spam, yet the knee elbow which has a lot of counters for it that are timing based, is only 2 strikes and it takes more out of the users stamina pool than punches.

There's nothing to patch out aside from maybe lowering the speed of the combination, but that would mean ALL combos need to be slowed down respectively.

Was Overreem spamming knees against Oleinik? Was Holloway spamming jabs against Poirier? Ask yourself those questions.

I would be more focused on better evasive maneuvers that won't be broken, the first thing I would want fixed is not having head movement frozen after your block is overcommitted.

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Would you agree that the combo that is represented in the game both speed and elbow power wise isn't realistic at all? You mentioned Overeem spamming knees, but not spamming knees into elbows. It seems like a silly thing to do because wouldn't you lose a ton of torque on the elbow. I'm seriously asking because I have no formal training.

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[RomeroXVII]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Would you agree that the combo that is represented in the game both speed and elbow power wise isn't realistic at all? You mentioned Overeem spamming knees, but not spamming knees into elbows. It seems like a silly thing to do because wouldn't you lose a ton of torque on the elbow. I'm seriously asking because I have no formal training.

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The speed of it coming FORWARD should DEFINITELY be reduced for sure. Elbow Knee is somwhat fine, Knee Elbow is worse.

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[bmlimo]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Sincere question: Does anybody actually go to practice mode and take the time to recognize the animation and practice for about 30-40 minutes? Or do they just go straight to Ranked? I practice the counters I use.

If top 10 players on Xbox are losing to Knee Elbow 'spam' , I'm surprised because the majority of that playerbase love to throw 4 pieces like Jab Uppercut hook straight, straight lead hook x2, Jab rear hook lead Uppercut Straight, and will LOVE to focus on throwing nothing but those strikes to destroy the block, yet they're panicking over two strikes.

Knee Elbow isn't something that can be landed at step kick range. You can single collar clinch if they're too close and you know your entries, OU clinch as well. Nobody is flying across the Octagon throwing knees and elbows. (Most) People have no issue with 100+ strikes consisting of the same 3+4 hit combos, and won't call that spam, yet the knee elbow which has a lot of counters for it that are timing based, is only 2 strikes and it takes more out of the users stamina pool than punches.

There's nothing to patch out aside from maybe lowering the speed of the combination, but that would mean ALL combos need to be slowed down respectively.

Was Overreem spamming knees against Oleinik? Was Holloway spamming jabs against Poirier? Ask yourself those questions.

I would be more focused on better evasive maneuvers that won't be broken, the first thing I would want fixed is not having head movement frozen after your block is overcommitted.

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I don’t spend that time in practice mode.
Romero, in the moment stationary knee and knee elbow spam are até least gamey, nobody needs 30 min in practice mode to understand how to defend A single strike or a two piece combo, but knee it’s hard, it’s faster than other strikes and it’s extremely defensive as well, what’s the difference between this and duck upper in terms of take your opponent out of their game and beeing a safe effective strike? I just want a realistic game or at least balanced and knee speed isn’t balanced as the other strikes speed.
About overeem, he spammed clinch knees for sure not “nude” body knees.
Holloway spammed jabs but I don’t think a lot of guys can have his output without gas...

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Sincere question: Does anybody actually go to practice mode and take the time to recognize the animation and practice for about 30-40 minutes? Or do they just go straight to Ranked? I practice the counters I use.

If top 10 players on Xbox are losing to Knee Elbow 'spam' , I'm surprised because the majority of that playerbase love to throw 4 pieces like Jab Uppercut hook straight, straight lead hook x2, Jab rear hook lead Uppercut Straight, and will LOVE to focus on throwing nothing but those strikes to destroy the block, yet they're panicking over two strikes.

Knee Elbow isn't something that can be landed at step kick range. You can single collar clinch if they're too close and you know your entries, OU clinch as well. Nobody is flying across the Octagon throwing knees and elbows. (Most) People have no issue with 100+ strikes consisting of the same 3+4 hit combos, and won't call that spam, yet the knee elbow which has a lot of counters for it that are timing based, is only 2 strikes and it takes more out of the users stamina pool than punches.

There's nothing to patch out aside from maybe lowering the speed of the combination, but that would mean ALL combos need to be slowed down respectively.

Was Overreem spamming knees against Oleinik? Was Holloway spamming jabs against Poirier? Ask yourself those questions.

I would be more focused on better evasive maneuvers that won't be broken, the first thing I would want fixed is not having head movement frozen after your block is overcommitted.

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Thank you!

I always thought I was goin crazy when people talked about knee spam

It’s 9/10 a result of someone always loading uo the same combos looking to break the block

Everytime I faced one I almost always KO’d them by timing their knees with a straight (stay out if elbow range) into a combo. And like you said the clinch is really good for disrupting rhythm. I’n not super high level but I can make Div5 easily and I’ve fought some top players.

Guys you can add the O/U clinch after the end of any combo.Or you can turn your last strike into a retreating one to create space If they’re always throwing the the knee after you combo you also have the option of delaying your like strike a lil to catch them in the startup. Or you can occasionally immediately fire a straight into a clinch attempt

There are a lot options but like Romero said you gotta be willing to practice. If not you cant be mad at a particular strike or move that you cant stop.

[ryangil23]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

There should be more vulnerability to throwing knees. They can be hit by clean shots while throwing them and they won't be rocked most of the time. I really think this is the issue.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

There should be more vulnerability to throwing knees. They can be hit by clean shots while throwing them and they won't be rocked most of the time. I really think this is the issue.

If it's at the closest range where they're supposed to be utilized, I'm looking to catch it or intercept with an elbow or straight. Overhands are 50-50, it depends on what side the knee is coming from, but Overhands generally can get a big rock.

I do believe that: It should definitely be at Mercy to punches when the person throwing it is at punching range, which is why the retreating jab is really effective when you know somebody is going to lead with a knee.

[ryangil23]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

If it's at the closest range where they're supposed to be utilized, I'm looking to catch it or intercept with an elbow or straight. Overhands are 50-50, it depends on what side the knee is coming from, but Overhands generally can get a big rock.

I do believe that: It should definitely be at Mercy to punches when the person throwing it is at punching range, which is why the retreating jab is really effective when you know somebody is going to lead with a knee.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I think being caught with hooks or uppercuts when attempting a knee should be death just like being uppercutted when throwing body shots or being hit when throwing a body kick.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I think being caught with hooks or uppercuts when attempting a knee should be death just like being uppercutted when throwing body shots or being hit when throwing a body kick.

Step Hook yes if timed correctly, regular no, Uppercut yes.

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[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: Body knee elbow spam

That knee should really only be effective when someone is ducking or going for a takedown. I can't really recall too many fighters irl throwing knees like this and having such an effect in general standup without some sort of clinch in.

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