FIFA 20 Early Gameplay Impressions

**SVCbearcat10** · 07-29-2019, 07:10 PM

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What happened to the career mode information? I thought that it was due out before the Pro Club news...

**Slyone14** · 07-29-2019, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by SVCbearcat10

What happened to the career mode information? I thought that it was due out before the Pro Club news...

Shoulda been out a month ago. But knowing EA they said end of July . So I’m guessing Wednesday July 31. Lol

**Peter_OS** · 07-29-2019, 08:39 PM

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Shaun showed us some video from FIFA 19 and expressed to us that the team felt that the ball physics and lack of movement of the ball in flight in terms of spin and rotation was unacceptable in comparison to how a ball would actually move on the pitch in real life.

So let me ask this question. If it was unacceptable how and why did it pass QA and allowed to be in the game when it was released by EA? Does this make sense to anyone here?

**Peter_OS** · 07-29-2019, 08:41 PM

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EA is great at dazzling us with their game trailers and pumping up their game each year with their blog posts and interviews.

Until we actually see gameplay footage and someone playing the CPU, or when I get my hands on the timed trial from EA Access I will hold off judgement on Fifa 2020 and lower my expectations until this happens. But a part of me can't feel but think that I will be disappointed again.

Let's see what happens.

**muaaahh** · 07-29-2019, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by SVCbearcat10

What happened to the career mode information? I thought that it was due out before the Pro Club news...

Not a mention from EA, not a line from this article... let's a make some pressure

**GoBlue81188** · 07-29-2019, 10:48 PM

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Encouraging write up, with one glaring trouble spot: Fouls

You note the new free kick system and seeing Messi bang them in. Problem is in your limited time you note one opportunity. There in lies a fundamental issue for YEARS with this series, a complete and utter lack of whistles. As a strong supporter of this franchise, its so frustrating to see this be both not corrected but also not noted as a glaring issue by those in a position to have their voice heard. I have hundreds of hours of footage on twitch, and many many many examples of this issue. Heck, we even isolate the referee and track his eyes!

EA will continue to get my money, because for me, it’s the only real option available. Just sad to see!

**ChaseB** · 07-29-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Peter_OS

So let me ask this question. If it was unacceptable how and why did it pass QA and allowed to be in the game when it was released by EA? Does this make sense to anyone here?

It's pretty easy to explain, it's not a simple QA issue. It's a feature issue. If there's not development scope for something like that, it's not getting fixed. It's a "bug" that would just be shipped.

**genefrankle** · 07-29-2019, 11:07 PM

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Bla, bla, bla... After few months in and couple of patches the game will become same old stupid **** like every year.

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**Peter_OS** · 07-29-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by ChaseB

It's pretty easy to explain, it's not a simple QA issue. It's a feature issue. If there's not development scope for something like that, it's not getting fixed. It's a "bug" that would just be shipped.

How is this not part of the development scope for this type of game. Soccer is played on a soccer field with a soccer ball. There a ball physics in play. It's what makes the game.

So what you are saying is that they are releasing an unfinished product filled with bugs and they just admitted that a part of the game (ball physics and lack of movement of the ball in flight in terms of spin and rotation) was unacceptable. So they lied to us when they were hyping the ball physics and gameplay in Fifa 19 before it's release date last year. Claiming it to be the best yet in the series and how realistic it was going to be. I see a contradiction here. Don't you?

So essentially we are purchasing an incomplete game from EA. How does that justify charging the consumer the full price tag on the game at $59.99US or $79.99CDN? And how can you trust them going forward?

If you ask me I think it's a complete ripoff. Buyer beware!

**ChaseB** · 07-29-2019, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Peter_OS

How is this not part of the development scope for this type of game. Soccer is played on a soccer field with a soccer ball. There a ball physics in play. It's what makes the game.

So what you are saying is that they are releasing an unfinished product filled with bugs and they just admitted that a part of the game (ball physics and lack of movement of the ball in flight in terms of spin and rotation) was unacceptable. So they lied to us when they were hyping the ball physics and gameplay in Fifa 19 before it's release date last year. Claiming it to be the best yet in the series and how realistic it was going to be. I see a contradiction here. Don't you?

So essentially we are purchasing an incomplete game from EA. How does that justify charging the consumer the full price tag on the game at $59.99US or $79.99CDN? And how can you trust them going forward?

If you ask me I think it's a complete ripoff. Buyer beware!

Mate, you asked why QA would allow something like this to ship, I was just telling you why QA wouldn't really have much to do with it. You asked does this make sense that QA would allow it? I explained why it does make sense QA would allow it.

Fin.

**Peter_OS** · 07-30-2019, 02:10 AM

Mate you're missing my point. QA works with developers. They do the testing and report back on any bugs or problems.*Every IT company, every gaming company has developers and QA teams that work together. If something is deemed a "bug" or is unacceptable (as noted in this article.) then it should have been worked on and fixed before release.

My concern is that we may have a team of developers who are not doing their best to represent realistic ball physics in the game. I have played both sports soccer games for many years now, and PES does an incredible job with ball physics and how it moves and is in play in flight. All you have to do is watch the replays (up close) in the game to see the difference. EA needs to get to that level in their series. The same can be said about the gameplay and CPU AI.

That's all im going to say about this.

I'm looking forward to some actually gameplay footage of Fifa 2020.

Thanks for the article Joel! It was a good read.

**coach422001** · 07-30-2019, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by lhsballa11

Encouraging write up, with one glaring trouble spot: Fouls

You note the new free kick system and seeing Messi bang them in. Problem is in your limited time you note one opportunity. There in lies a fundamental issue for YEARS with this series, a complete and utter lack of whistles. As a strong supporter of this franchise, its so frustrating to see this be both not corrected but also not noted as a glaring issue by those in a position to have their voice heard. I have hundreds of hours of footage on twitch, and many many many examples of this issue. Heck, we even isolate the referee and track his eyes!

EA will continue to get my money, because for me, it’s the only real option available. Just sad to see!

This is really the key for me this year most likely. Perhaps if the gameplay really wows me I may think differently and just chalk it up to "EA football leagues have no fouls, just live with it", but revamping the free kick mechanics for the once every three games I may get to use it isn't worthwhile for me. They also have I heard a 'hard tackle' choice now, which again you'd think would be 'picked hard tackle' x 'player tackle ability' x opponent position/skill x ball position x random factor = clean tackle or foul. But I haven't heard anyone indicate that hard tackling (like 50/50 balls last year) would lead to an increase in fouls as one would expect in such situations.

**RedAL925** · 07-30-2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by SVCbearcat10

What happened to the career mode information? I thought that it was due out before the Pro Club news...

Originally posted by Slyone14

Shoulda been out a month ago. But knowing EA they said end of July . So I’m guessing Wednesday July 31. Lol

Originally posted by muaaahh

Not a mention from EA, not a line from this article... let's a make some pressure

https://twitter.com/EACoreySA/status/1151964921678237696?s=19

Probably had some Juventus imagery in there, which they cannot use anymore.

Either way, we all know nothing will change in CM...again.

KG · 07-30-2019, 09:00 AM

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I took the word “unacceptable” to mean that “in hindsight it wasn’t up to their expectations.

You’d have to ask Joel though as I don’t know if it’s a direct quote or a summation of what EA said.

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