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  • Mattphillies
    Rookie
    • Apr 2014
    • 20

    #1

    Restructuring Contracts

    Hey everyone!

    Really enjoying the game this year but I’ve found the work they did with contracts, specifically how they laid out cap hits in long term contracts to be quite worrisome. If you use a team like the Eagles, you’re going to enter the offseason with practically no cap space whatsoever unless you start releasing very good players. In some ways this is a good simulation of real life - teams have to make tough financial decisions every year to free up cap space - but I think they went a little overboard with their intent. Too much money was put into the 2nd year cap hits and not enough into the first. The Eagles just aren’t going to be releasing Malcolm Jenkins, Brandon Brooks, Alshon Jeffery etc.

    They do however masterfully construct and restructure contracts every year so there’s always room in the budget to keep their own priority free agents, extend drafted players, and dip a toe or two into the free agent market. In Madden, there’s just no way to do this, until I found a little trick.

    If you want to create a little wiggle room for the first two offseasons or so without straight up changing a player’s contract to something else entirely (which feels like cheating to me), simply go into the Edit Contract tab of a player with a big money long term deal and move the current year of the deal to the left or right and then back again. This will redistribute the cap hits throughout the contract to a more evenly balanced backloaded deal, freeing up money on next year’s cap in just about every case. You can do this to as many players with multi-year deals as you want. Money will be pushed into your current year’s cap, but I’ve found you can actually operate the first year OVER the cap if needed and you won’t be prompted to cut anyone. You can free up just a few million if you’d like or for some teams over 20 million.

    Be advised, just like in real life, you’re pushing some money further down the line so be mindful of who you’re “restructuring” because you could end up taking a bigger bath on a guy you were intending to cut in a year or two.

    I find this method to be the closest thing to “restructuring” contracts in Madden that we’ll get so I hope this helps someone out there as much as it’s helped me and my Eagles franchise.

    Thanks and enjoy the game everyone!

    P.S. Read Geodude’s Franchise Tips every year - that dude is a hall of famer!
    Last edited by Mattphillies; 08-21-2019, 10:19 PM.
  • Ueauvan
    MVP
    • Mar 2009
    • 1625

    #2
    Re: Restructuring Contracts

    id like the ability to use some free cap space in year 1 to alleviate year 2/3/4 by giving guaranteed and decreasing salary in those years or maybe slightly less, ie money now is better then later. so for example i have 20m cap space. why cant i increase my stud wr bonus in year 1 by 5m and lower his salary next year by 5m. o creat a decreasing contract pay more when i have cap space now etc. flexibility is the key and madden doesnt offer it. its not difficult code but it seems it is for ea, same as 5th year options, rfas etc. nick mullens wants 4 yr 44m with 30m guaranteed as Jimmy G's back up in 2020, a 69 ovr. a team player would help restructure, better players on team more chance to win etc. loyalty/team ethos/personality etc have impact but not in ea

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    • steelheat226
      Rookie
      • Jul 2018
      • 261

      #3
      Re: Restructuring Contracts

      Originally posted by Mattphillies
      Hey everyone!

      Really enjoying the game this year but I’ve found the work they did with contracts, specifically how they laid out cap hits in long term contracts to be quite worrisome. If you use a team like the Eagles, you’re going to enter the offseason with practically no cap space whatsoever unless you start releasing very good players. In some ways this is a good simulation of real life - teams have to make tough financial decisions every year to free up cap space - but I think they went a little overboard with their intent. Too much money was put into the 2nd year cap hits and not enough into the first. The Eagles just aren’t going to be releasing Malcolm Jenkins, Brandon Brooks, Alshon Jeffery etc.

      They do however masterfully construct and restructure contracts every year so there’s always room in the budget to keep their own priority free agents, extend drafted players, and dip a toe or two into the free agent market. In Madden, there’s just no way to do this, until I found a little trick.

      If you want to create a little wiggle room for the first two offseasons or so without straight up changing a player’s contract to something else entirely (which feels like cheating to me), simply go into the Edit Contract tab of a player with a big money long term deal and move the current year of the deal to the left or right and then back again. This will redistribute the cap hits throughout the contract to a more evenly balanced backloaded deal, freeing up money on next year’s cap in just about every case. You can do this to as many players with multi-year deals as you want. Money will be pushed into your current year’s cap, but I’ve found you can actually operate the first year OVER the cap if needed and you won’t be prompted to cut anyone. You can free up just a few million if you’d like or for some teams over 20 million.

      Be advised, just like in real life, you’re pushing some money further down the line so be mindful of who you’re “restructuring” because you could end up taking a bigger bath on a guy you were intending to cut in a year or two.

      I find this method to be the closest thing to “restructuring” contracts in Madden that we’ll get so I hope this helps someone out there as much as it’s helped me and my Eagles franchise.

      Thanks and enjoy the game everyone!

      P.S. Read Geodude’s Franchise Tips every year - that dude is a hall of famer!
      Very interesting to know. The Steelers do the exact same thing. So after I slide the years, do I save anything? Or can I just exit?

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      • Shards
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 418

        #4
        Re: Restructuring Contracts

        This is a nice idea. The contracts that current players have can be quite a bit different than the Madden structure. This is probably taking the full amount and redistributing the money like EA does for all of their contracts. They always backload contracts.
        Just stop saying that Madden is garbage and you aren't going to buy it. We all know that you are telling a lie so you can feel better about yourself.

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        • Funkycorm
          Cleveland Baseball Guru
          • Nov 2016
          • 3159

          #5
          Re: Restructuring Contracts

          You could do this on 18 as well. Change the year and changing back would lower their cap hit but not change the money total. It was a nice little trick to get a little extra in cap room. Though players on 7 year contracts it would not work on.
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          • Mattphillies
            Rookie
            • Apr 2014
            • 20

            #6
            Re: Restructuring Contracts

            Originally posted by steelheat226
            Very interesting to know. The Steelers do the exact same thing. So after I slide the years, do I save anything? Or can I just exit?
            Yep, save after that. You’ll see the cap hits are more evenly distributed now, instead of how they manually set them up in the default rosters.

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            • Mattphillies
              Rookie
              • Apr 2014
              • 20

              #7
              Re: Restructuring Contracts

              Originally posted by Shards
              This is a nice idea. The contracts that current players have can be quite a bit different than the Madden structure. This is probably taking the full amount and redistributing the money like EA does for all of their contracts. They always backload contracts.
              Yeah that’s the idea. It’s still backloaded but distributed more evenly. For some reason a lot of the contracts have waaaaaay more money tied up in the middle years than they should and it’s putting a few teams in cap hell with no way out other than cutting really good players. It was taking away from my enthusiasm for my Eagles franchise until I thought of messing with the “current” year tab to see if that would change the cap hits to a more traditional Madden contract structure and I was so happy I was right! Really hope this helps others out there and I apologize if this was already well known.
              Last edited by Mattphillies; 08-22-2019, 04:30 PM.

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              • Mattphillies
                Rookie
                • Apr 2014
                • 20

                #8
                Re: Restructuring Contracts

                Originally posted by Funkycorm
                You could do this on 18 as well. Change the year and changing back would lower their cap hit but not change the money total. It was a nice little trick to get a little extra in cap room. Though players on 7 year contracts it would not work on.
                Awesome! I also saw in the patch notes that bonus money won’t be distributed past the 5th year per NFL rules so I’m sure that has a bearing on this

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                • Funkycorm
                  Cleveland Baseball Guru
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3159

                  #9
                  Re: Restructuring Contracts

                  Originally posted by Mattphillies
                  Awesome! I also saw in the patch notes that bonus money won’t be distributed past the 5th year per NFL rules so I’m sure that has a bearing on this
                  That makes sense from what I saw previously.

                  Though I do have yet to personally try this on 20. I am going to try it and see now. I know it didn't work last year.

                  I also know previously it would not work the year they signed the extension but once the off-season hit it would work.

                  No bonus after year 5 may explain why it won't work on those 7 year contracts.
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                  • ktd1976
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1940

                    #10
                    Re: Restructuring Contracts

                    Originally posted by Funkycorm
                    That makes sense from what I saw previously.

                    Though I do have yet to personally try this on 20. I am going to try it and see now. I know it didn't work last year.

                    I also know previously it would not work the year they signed the extension but once the off-season hit it would work.

                    No bonus after year 5 may explain why it won't work on those 7 year contracts.
                    I did some testing on this last night, and found out a couple things.

                    This trick ONLY works when the player has 2 years remaining on his contract.

                    I tested with Matt Stafford, and doing this trick actually INCREASED his cap value for the current season, AND the next season. He has 4 years left on a 6 year contract.

                    I then tested it with Snacks Harrison, and Marvin Jones, (who both have 2 years remaining) and it increased the cap value for the current season, but lowered it for the following season.

                    So, you have to be careful when you do this trick with players with more than 2 ears remaining on their deal. It might actually increase the cap value for the following season.....

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                    • reyes the roof
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11526

                      #11
                      Re: Restructuring Contracts

                      Originally posted by ktd1976
                      I did some testing on this last night, and found out a couple things.

                      This trick ONLY works when the player has 2 years remaining on his contract.

                      I tested with Matt Stafford, and doing this trick actually INCREASED his cap value for the current season, AND the next season. He has 4 years left on a 6 year contract.

                      I then tested it with Snacks Harrison, and Marvin Jones, (who both have 2 years remaining) and it increased the cap value for the current season, but lowered it for the following season.

                      So, you have to be careful when you do this trick with players with more than 2 ears remaining on their deal. It might actually increase the cap value for the following season.....
                      Yeah I used this method to use up the $33 million I have in space in my Bears franchise. They have a some guys getting huge increases in 2020 so I wanted to absorb some of those cap hits this year since you can’t carry over cap space as far as I know. I highly recommend this to anyone that has a lot of cap space and guys that are on the roster that will be seeing big increases in their cap hits the following year

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                      • ajra21
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 2170

                        #12
                        Re: Restructuring Contracts

                        Originally posted by Mattphillies
                        Hey everyone!

                        Really enjoying the game this year but I’ve found the work they did with contracts, specifically how they laid out cap hits in long term contracts to be quite worrisome. If you use a team like the Eagles, you’re going to enter the offseason with practically no cap space whatsoever unless you start releasing very good players. In some ways this is a good simulation of real life - teams have to make tough financial decisions every year to free up cap space - but I think they went a little overboard with their intent. Too much money was put into the 2nd year cap hits and not enough into the first. The Eagles just aren’t going to be releasing Malcolm Jenkins, Brandon Brooks, Alshon Jeffery etc.

                        They do however masterfully construct and restructure contracts every year so there’s always room in the budget to keep their own priority free agents, extend drafted players, and dip a toe or two into the free agent market. In Madden, there’s just no way to do this, until I found a little trick.

                        If you want to create a little wiggle room for the first two offseasons or so without straight up changing a player’s contract to something else entirely (which feels like cheating to me), simply go into the Edit Contract tab of a player with a big money long term deal and move the current year of the deal to the left or right and then back again. This will redistribute the cap hits throughout the contract to a more evenly balanced backloaded deal, freeing up money on next year’s cap in just about every case. You can do this to as many players with multi-year deals as you want. Money will be pushed into your current year’s cap, but I’ve found you can actually operate the first year OVER the cap if needed and you won’t be prompted to cut anyone. You can free up just a few million if you’d like or for some teams over 20 million.

                        Be advised, just like in real life, you’re pushing some money further down the line so be mindful of who you’re “restructuring” because you could end up taking a bigger bath on a guy you were intending to cut in a year or two.

                        I find this method to be the closest thing to “restructuring” contracts in Madden that we’ll get so I hope this helps someone out there as much as it’s helped me and my Eagles franchise.

                        Thanks and enjoy the game everyone!

                        P.S. Read Geodude’s Franchise Tips every year - that dude is a hall of famer!
                        That bolded line, actually, they might well cut guys like Jenkins and Brooks given their age.

                        As for the contract manipulation, I've been doing this for years simply cos teams can't manage their caps well.

                        I'll have to do it in this version cos in all sims I've done, KC have let Mahomes walk. He ends up signining a one year deal with teams like WAS and MIA. Goff always leaves LA.
                        Last edited by ajra21; 09-02-2019, 03:38 PM.

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                        • metallidevils
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 449

                          #13
                          Re: Restructuring Contracts

                          Originally posted by ajra21
                          That bolded line, actually, they might well cut guys like Jenkins and Brooks given their age.

                          As for the contract manipulation, I've been doing this for years simply cos teams can't manage their caps well.

                          I'll have to do it in this version cos in all sims I've done, KC have let Mahomes walk. He ends up signining a one year deal with teams like WAS and MIA. Goff always leaves LA.
                          I just started a franchise as KC. Mahomes is asking for something like 36 mil/year for 7 years.

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                          • lunchbox2042
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Re: Restructuring Contracts

                            I wish we had the option to set whether we wanted to front load, back load or spread the contract out evenly. I feel like one of the ps2/xbox football games had this option.

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                            • PhillyPhanatic14
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 4824

                              #15
                              Re: Restructuring Contracts

                              Because we can't choose how the guaranteed money is spread out in deals, something that I've had to do manually this year go into existing contracts and shift the bonus money into salary after year 2 or 3. You hardly ever see guaranteed money in real life deals beyond year 2 or 3 so this is a way to move on from a player that you've given a long term deal to in a realistic way.


                              This is the first year that I've taken this approach, but it's been fun. Allows more roster flexibility like they have in real life, while also keeping the cap numbers high.

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