Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

[kozartoslaughter1986]

Seriously, the New York Jets, Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, Cincinnati, they are not good. Why do they play like they are in this game?

Marcus mariota is not a good quarterback but he currently has an 85.7% completion percentage against me right now on all pro. BS.

So sick of this. I don’t mind losing to good teams, I’m tired of bad teams not sucking in this game like they do in real life.

[gr18]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

Drop the cpu qb accuracy slider by a few when you play these qbs that you think suck accordingly.Maybe you shouldn't have to do this but it is an option regardless.

[JoshC1977]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

"Bad" NFL players are still professional athletes. The gap between a Mariota and Wilson isn't as large as people would want to believe. Madden actually reflects this pretty well.

But you still have to play them hard, you still have to mix up defenses, you still need to apply that 'pressure to perform' them. Even the worst starting QB will tear you apart if you don't apply that pressure. You can't just sag off and play a vanilla defense and expect these guys to constantly flub throws left and right.

The beauty though....when you get that pressure on them (whether through tight coverage or pass rush), this is where they get differentiated. Top tier QBs can still perform....lesser guys begin making mistakes.

I'm using QBs as an example, but this really applies across the board.

[Funkycorm]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

The best pass defense is a good defensive line in 43 and good OLB in a 34.

Generate pressure and they get sloppy quick.

I run a 34 blitz scheme and the most important positions are my NT and my OLB.

Don't just sit in cover 2 or 3 or 2 man under all game. The CPU AI learns and will pick you apart. Mariota may be "bad" but he is still 1 of 32 NFL starting quarterback and given time to find a receiver without pressure will decimate even the best secondary.

[kozartoslaughter1986]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

"Bad" NFL players are still professional athletes. The gap between a Mariota and Wilson isn't as large as people would want to believe. Madden actually reflects this pretty well.



But you still have to play them hard, you still have to mix up defenses, you still need to apply that 'pressure to perform' them. Even the worst starting QB will tear you apart if you don't apply that pressure. You can't just sag off and play a vanilla defense and expect these guys to constantly flub throws left and right.



The beauty though....when you get that pressure on them (whether through tight coverage or pass rush), this is where they get differentiated. Top tier QBs can still perform....lesser guys begin making mistakes.



I'm using QBs as an example, but this really applies across the board.

Yes it is. Mariota is not good, period. Bad teams should play badly regardless of difficulty, period.


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[JayD]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

Yes it is. Mariota is not good, period. Bad teams should play badly regardless of difficulty, period.


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Good argument..................

Perhaps you should get better at the game?

[Jaximus]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

Mariota wins MVP in a large amount of my first year sims. We all know that isnt happening. I am not saying he is terrible but he is not going to win MVP.

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[TheOncomingStorm]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

You are exactly correct. Madden teams should play to the level of their numerical ratings. No better, no worse, no variation. Everyone who watches football knows that "any given Sunday" isn't actually a thing, and the New York Jets, Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, Cincinnati will all tie for 0-16 (schedules be damned) this year.

[timhere1970]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

You are exactly correct. Madden teams should play to the level of their numerical ratings. No better, no worse, no variation. Everyone who watches football knows that "any given Sunday" isn't actually a thing, and the New York Jets, Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, Cincinnati will all tie for 0-16 (schedules be damned) this year.

Even though miami, buffalo and the jets all play each other twice.

[TheOncomingStorm]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

Even though miami, buffalo and the jets all play each other twice.

As I said, schedules be dammed.

[Nza]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

Are you playing as Dallas, Philly, or New England? Mariota did pretty well against them last year

[tg88forHOF]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

You are exactly correct. Madden teams should play to the level of their numerical ratings. No better, no worse, no variation. Everyone who watches football knows that "any given Sunday" isn't actually a thing, and the New York Jets, Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, Cincinnati will all tie for 0-16 (schedules be damned) this year.

This.

OP, while it's certainly simple to say players and teams are just "good" or "bad", the reality is, the players that fans casually consider "bad" are usually only about 10-15% "worse" than the ones fans usually consider "good" (extreme outliers like a Nathan Peterman notwithstanding).

And the difference between them is usually seen in consistency.

For example, in week 11 last year against Houston, Mariota went 22 of 23 (95.6%) for 303 yards, 2 TD, no picks, for a passer rating of 147.7.

That's absolutely comparable to Wilson's best games last year. The difference is, Wilson just has more of those kinds of games, more consistently.

If you want "bad" teams to always be bad, and never be competitive, never threaten to beat "better" teams, or even go on a run and win more games in a season than expected...that's fine. People want what they want.

Just bear in mind that a Madden where Mariota and Tennessee never put together some unexpected, impressive games or even seasons doesn't look a thing like the real, actual NFL...and the vast majority of us don't want a game that looks that way.

TLDR: Just because you over-simplify every player and team to a binary "bad" or "good" doesn't mean things really work that way. Real NFL football just isn't that simple, and most of us don't want it to be.

[Gwarble]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

You guys are being a bit unfair, although I agree with you over the OP. But if you play through enough seasons you’ll notice that certain teams playbooks will produce Superstar QB numbers in simmed games at least (& OP’s played games apparently). Team playbooks like the Bills, Jets, Broncos, Titans will produce great stats for the QB, whilst Pittsburgh/Chiefs won’t ever get close to the pass yardage that Roethlisberger/Mahomes got last year (where as I have seen even auto gen QBs in CFM have 5000 yard+ for the season sometimes on these books) THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS

[tg88forHOF]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

You guys are being a bit unfair, although I agree with you over the OP. But if you play through enough seasons you’ll notice that certain teams playbooks will produce Superstar QB numbers in simmed games at least (& OP’s played games apparently). Team playbooks like the Bills, Jets, Broncos, Titans will produce great stats for the QB, whilst Pittsburgh/Chiefs won’t ever get close to the pass yardage that Roethlisberger/Mahomes got last year (where as I have seen even auto gen QBs in CFM have 5000 yard+ for the season sometimes on these books) THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS

Most years, Roethlisberger doesn't get close to Roethlisberger's 2018 pass yardage, either....if you take away the 4900 he threw for in 2014, his 5100 pass yards last season was 800 yards more than his next highest season...and that was back in 2009.

15 seasons...1 at 5100, one at 4900, and 13 seasons at 4300 and below.

Mahomes has exactly one full season under his belt...I think he's got the potential to be one of the 3 best QBs ever, but if you can tell us for certain that 5000 yards will be his average, rather than a rarely-hit ceiling, I'd like to borrow your time machine.

That's the whole point here...everybody's performance is variable, and in a professional sports league, there's no such thing as a player or team that will always beat or get beaten by another player or team.

If that's what somebody wants to see...why even play the game?

I haven't played or simmed through enough seasons to see if any particular playbook tends to actually create better results over time, over a large enough sample size to actually say it's meaningful. Maybe that's the case, maybe not....Im not the guy to say.

But that's something you just brought to the table. The OP complained because Mariota was rocking a 75% completion rate against him for one game, then doubled down on the idea that Mariota is bad, and should never play well. There's nothing unfair about calling that opinion wildly unrealistic.

[Gwarble]

Re: Why do teams suck in real life play like superstars in this game?

But none of the teams playbooks I’ve listed have even dreamed of a stat like that and yet the game will tend toward rewarding those teams, off of what previous history? I completely agree with you guys on the variable part, and I agree OP is being unrealistic, but there is some truth to what he’s saying and some of the weaker teams in the NFL right now, have an advantage for seemingly no reason in sim (I’m pretty sure you’ll see much less pass attempts/yards/TDS on Greenbay playbook Rn than say the Jets)