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Tbjohnson2 10-27-2019 08:10 PM

Speed Theshold
 
Does anyone recommend playing with ST set higher than 50? Guys in my league easily run for 8+ yards a carry with fast RBs - and I’m trying to find a way to tone that down. What negatives might this cause? Is ST in Madden 20 the same as Madden 19...where ST set at 75 = the old ST set at 50?

Rye 10-27-2019 09:29 PM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
I'm not sure about whether it's the same as 19, I'm sure someone else could answer that. But I do know a few guys on here that do use a higher threshold. Aestis has a great set on here for user vs user leagues that I'd recommend checking out, he uses 80 I believe. Flazko also has his set to 90 last I checked. It might definitely help with the high ypc

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Tbjohnson2 10-27-2019 09:48 PM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
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Originally Posted by Rye (Post 2049951373)
I'm not sure about whether it's the same as 19, I'm sure someone else could answer that. But I do know a few guys on here that do use a higher threshold. Aestis has a great set on here for user vs user leagues that I'd recommend checking out, he uses 80 I believe. Flazko also has his set to 90 last I checked. It might definitely help with the high ypc

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Thanks for the feedback! I dug through some posts and did see some were using higher ST. It just seemed like most were using the standard 50 - more than past years of madden. I think I am going to test out 80 and see if that helps some.

capa 10-28-2019 08:57 AM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
Higher threshholds will help keep long gainers down since players will not have huge gaps related to their speed and pursuit. Players will be caught from behind and defensive players will be faster to the ball to prevent long RAC.

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TG The Punisher 10-30-2019 09:25 PM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tbjohnson2 (Post 2049951290)
Does anyone recommend playing with ST set higher than 50? Guys in my league easily run for 8+ yards a carry with fast RBs - and I’m trying to find a way to tone that down. What negatives might this cause? Is ST in Madden 20 the same as Madden 19...where ST set at 75 = the old ST set at 50?

First question I'd ask is are you using autosubs at default?

For some reason, moving the autosubs sliders to any combination outside of the default settings increases run yardage exponentially. You might also want to look at Pass Block and Tackling sliders too. Moving those might help bring run averages down

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grilled_rooster 11-29-2019 05:26 AM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
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Originally Posted by TG The Punisher (Post 2049954132)
First question I'd ask is are you using autosubs at default?

For some reason, moving the autosubs sliders to any combination outside of the default settings increases run yardage exponentially. You might also want to look at Pass Block and Tackling sliders too. Moving those might help bring run averages down

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you have prove for this? :eek:



changing auto subs would result in even more unrealistic ypc stats.

TG The Punisher 12-05-2019 09:46 PM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
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Originally Posted by grilled_rooster (Post 2049976713)
you have prove for this? :eek:



changing auto subs would result in even more unrealistic ypc stats.

Yeah, it seems to exponentially increase player acceleration and reduce the effectiveness of the tackling slider. You'll see a lot of broken tackles and when a running back or WR gets free, it regularly leads to huge gains or easy TD's.

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JoshC1977 12-06-2019 03:02 PM

Re: Speed Theshold
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TG The Punisher (Post 2049954132)
First question I'd ask is are you using autosubs at default?

For some reason, moving the autosubs sliders to any combination outside of the default settings increases run yardage exponentially. You might also want to look at Pass Block and Tackling sliders too. Moving those might help bring run averages down

Yeah, autosubs are funky because they are related to the fatigue slider (and the fatigue slider has a significant impact on the gameplay). In general, increasing the autosub "In" value (set to 80 by default) results in a quicker player locomotion (i.e. sliding). Lowering it can produce better footplanting - but at the cost of momentum - which can lead to some bad interactions along the line and tackles.

Back to threshold....

Threshold is a really key value, even a 1 point difference can greatly begin affecting the overall gameplay balance. This isn't inherently a good thing nor a bad thing but it sets the base environment for the game. While threshold does change the difference in speed/accel separation, higher threshold does not necessarily equal fewer big plays - it depends greatly on how the other sliders are set. Big plays are often about timing (i.e. where are blockers set up relative to the runner) and pursuit angles. Threshold will impact both of those things because you've changed the relative speeds in which players are moving.


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