Pogo Stick & Intimidator Badges

[MakePostGreatAgain]

We gotta start a conversation on this.

These badges ruin my enjoyment of the game and I believe they do for most people here.

I havent felt this way since those completely gamebreaking exploits in years past where you could make any shot after a euro step.

So tired of 2k and their pedestrian changes for the inside game.

So tired of bad defenders & spammers getting rewarded for what should be an automatic 2 points or at least a shooting foul.

Someone tell me I aint crazy for feeling like this

[shayellis]

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You dont like guys getting 100 percent smothered for being in a 3 foot vicinity facing the wrong direction? Get gud bro

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[Vroman]

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They have to rethink this whole badge and "archetype" mess just to make things somewhat bearable and balanced. I'm 100% sure those badges gonna stay like they are for rest of the year because to fix it basically mean release new game.
How 2k balance badges is just give automatic success on certain areas so its almost like a card game where you just play "counters" or have your "cards" played in more powerful way than opponent.

Funniest thing about pogo stick is that one of gameplay improvement promise was "more punishment for early jumps" . However even with no defensive badges early jumps are very effective to bait attacker into canned brick layup animation.

[splashmountain]

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We gotta start a conversation on this.

These badges ruin my enjoyment of the game and I believe they do for most people here.

I havent felt this way since those completely gamebreaking exploits in years past where you could make any shot after a euro step.

So tired of 2k and their pedestrian changes for the inside game.

So tired of bad defenders & spammers getting rewarded for what should be an automatic 2 points or at least a shooting foul.

Someone tell me I aint crazy for feeling like this

search my many threads on how 2k has nerfed big man scoring when going up against anyone with decent defense and these silly badges.

dudes are not good at defense at all. they are jumping at every fake, getting body blocks on the way up and down(no fouls called), making you do weird animations that you're not doing on purpose forcing you to NOT pump fake and go up with a bad shot making them think they just played good defense. No, that was 2k playing for me. making you blow layups, and blow dunks. DO NOT FORCE ME TO GET A BADGE called relentless finisher in order to get better release timing because the games release timing on layups is not accurate at all. telling you Very early, when its a clear full bar, saying its late when you let it go half way,etc, etc. not allowing a dunk animation to turn on when a bad defender is underneath the rim or even behind the backboard. it says 100% smothered. HOW SWAY? in real life, if a defender jumped to bother you that deep in the paint. he would break his fingers trying to block thru the backboard. it wouldnt scare a soul if a guy was that deep in the paint. 2k either has no understanding of big men and paint scoring or they do it on purpose for some other nefarious reason. There is no inbetween choice.

[splashmountain]

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They have to rethink this whole badge and "archetype" mess just to make things somewhat bearable and balanced. I'm 100% sure those badges gonna stay like they are for rest of the year because to fix it basically mean release new game.
How 2k balance badges is just give automatic success on certain areas so its almost like a card game where you just play "counters" or have your "cards" played in more powerful way than opponent.

Funniest thing about pogo stick is that one of gameplay improvement promise was "more punishment for early jumps" . However even with no defensive badges early jumps are very effective to bait attacker into canned brick layup animation.

2k has released new games. no excuses. fix it. how many 25+gb patches have we had on xbox? crazy. these are game sized patches. dont tell me what they can't do. yes they can. remember, you dont have these issues when playing in my career. all of a sudden your big man dunks a lot more even when you're playing known defensive minded centers. iTs only when you play online vs other my players and these silly badges do you have issues.

[Vroman]

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2k has released new games. no excuses. fix it. how many 25+gb patches have we had on xbox? crazy. these are game sized patches. dont tell me what they can't do. yes they can. remember, you dont have these issues when playing in my career. all of a sudden your big man dunks a lot more even when you're playing known defensive minded centers. iTs only when you play online vs other my players and these silly badges do you have issues.

patch size got nothing to do with it, its just 2k policy since 2k17 or 2k18 to not patch things out . So whatever common exploit exist it cannot be fixed because "community" uproar .
In 2k16 2k did plenty good things with patches, but your common "dribble gawd youtuber" got too unhappy about having to learn how to play and 2k changed their ways completely since then.

[MakePostGreatAgain]

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dudes are not good at defense at all. they are jumping at every fake, getting body blocks on the way up and down(no fouls called), making you do weird animations that you're not doing on purpose forcing you to NOT pump fake and go up with a bad shot making them think they just played good defense. No, that was 2k playing for me. making you blow layups, and blow dunks. DO NOT FORCE ME TO GET A BADGE called relentless finisher in order to get better release timing because the games release timing on layups is not accurate at all. telling you Very early, when its a clear full bar, saying its late when you let it go half way,etc, etc. not allowing a dunk animation to turn on when a bad defender is underneath the rim or even behind the backboard. it says 100% smothered. HOW SWAY? in real life, if a defender jumped to bother you that deep in the paint. he would break his fingers trying to block thru the backboard. it wouldnt scare a soul if a guy was that deep in the paint. 2k either has no understanding of big men and paint scoring or they do it on purpose for some other nefarious reason. There is no inbetween choice.

Amen

Last time I got smothered by a man behind the backboard while alone in the restricted area I almost caught an aneurysm

At least in 2k19 you could catch them with an up and under for the foul, usually. This year it is like their contest persists throughout the entire swat block animation.

[loso_34]

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If you’ve read 2k reddit and twitter this was going to happen. Bigs were whining all year because they were still playing defense like 2k19. They believe hands up defense should be a strong contest to sum up their complaints they wanted paint defense easier and this is how 2k went about it.

[ItchyNscratchy]

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Pogo stick should’ve never even been in this game it just rewards bad defenders that spam block triangle once anybody is inside the paint.

[3ShowTime2]

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Agree, Pogo is a big ****ing joke, Intimidator is just badly implemented. It shows once again that 2k doesnt test their game. Both problems should have been discovered through testing before release. Or they dont give a **** about it...


Chase down is in the same catgeory, should never be in the game the way it works.



Other badges purely exist to help bad players become better...Cannot green a shot to save your life? Flexible Release is there for you. Problems timing layups? Pro Touch got you covered.


It was all to be expected when the number of badges increased this drastically with 2k20. 2k is absolutely terrible at balancing anything...

[tru11]

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Agree, Pogo is a big ****ing joke, Intimidator is just badly implemented. It shows once again that 2k doesnt test their game. Both problems should have been discovered through testing before release. Or they dont give a **** about it...


Chase down is in the same catgeory, should never be in the game the way it works.



Other badges purely exist to help bad players become better...Cannot green a shot to save your life? Flexible Release is there for you. Problems timing layups? Pro Touch got you covered.


It was all to be expected when the number of badges increased this drastically with 2k20. 2k is absolutely terrible at balancing anything...

pro touch is for people that are good with the timing of the lay up.
consistent finisher is for those that struggle although its there to make up for an adjusted release based on the defense as well.

[3ShowTime2]

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pro touch is for people that are good with the timing of the lay up.
consistent finisher is for those that struggle although its there to make up for an adjusted release based on the defense as well.

Jup thx, couldnt remember if it was pro touch or consistent f.

[Kushmir]

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Waaaaay past time we had this convo. A defender in the vicinity affecting your shot simply cant be a thing...they have to contest or do Hands Up. SOMETHING. Pogo Stick? Not even gonna touch that...its a HORRIBLE mechanic on the level of green releases.

Missed Blocks affecting shot success is just as bad. Now does Right Stick Contesting need to be more dynamic? SURE. I've been on that soapbox for awhile....but blocks are an ALL or NOTHING proposition.

If you’ve read 2k reddit and twitter this was going to happen. Bigs were whining all year because they were still playing defense like 2k19. They believe hands up defense should be a strong contest to sum up their complaints they wanted paint defense easier and this is how 2k went about it.

That we're still having a convo about people spamming block and it being effective is just wild. I'm simply not interested in a Next Gen game that doesn't have a core Risk/Reward foundation. If you mistime a block your momentum either takes you out of the play or you're whistled. NO MORE NEUTRAL OUTCOMES. Watch below as Grant and Porter Jr (two of the most athletic players in the league) fall for the williams pump fake: Neither get a second jump because that simply isn't how momentum works--moreso its just horrible balance...especially in H2H. No true competitive game can constantly put one user in No Win Scenarios while the other gets to SPAM.

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The real benefit of Hands Up has that it SHOULD allow us to Crowd pump faking or static/idle players and that SHOULD draw charges on out of control players but as many have said here, it should be the defensive option that affects a normal shot the least.

[Goffs]

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pro touch is for people that are good with the timing of the lay up.

consistent finisher is for those that struggle although its there to make up for an adjusted release based on the defense as well.

I suck at layup timing with my big. Guess I should put pro touch onto something else.

As for pogo stick...I guess it depends on that strength and jump height choices. I went for all strength with like a 40 vert. I find pogo stick useless with this build. Hell going all strength was a waste to me as well and I regret picking it. I should've picked vertical instead then pogo stick would be more usefull.

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[EarvGotti]

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Pogo Stick can go but i actually love that Intimidator badge. 2K has always heavily favored offense in the past....its about time things balance out on the defensive end.

Instead of going to the rim against a player that is known to be a good defensive player, you should think twice and maybe shoot a pullup/floater instead? Chess man. You can't have chess when one side of the ball(offense) is favored way more than the other side.