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DonJonpin 11-10-2019 09:02 PM

Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
There are 9 teams that have the record and resume to be in this playoff.

Here is my current estimation of where I would have them ranked right now, but I want your guys Input before I go through with it.

Team 1.
12-0 Record
3 top 10 wins over Team 6, 8, and 9... 5 top 25 wins. Clearly the top team.

Team 2.
12-0 Record
1 top 10 win over Team 4... 3 top 25 wins.

Team 3.
11-1 Record
Lost to #11 team, has two top 25 wins. Good resume gives them the nod above Team 4.

Team 4.
11-1 Record
Only loss is a very close game to Team 2. No top 25 wins. But beat some teams on the cusp of the top 25. Resume not quite as good as Team 3, but some impressive wins over winning record opponents. Team 4 given the nod over Team 5 because opponents were better overall.

Team 5.
12-0 Record
Resume is comparable to Team 4. No top 25 wins, a handful of winning record wins. Overall, definitely a playoff team, but ranked below Team 4 and 5 because schedule not as strong.

Team 6.
10-2 Record
Two losses were to Team 1, and another top 25 team. They beat Team 8 and 9... Total of 4 Top 25 wins.

Team 7.
10-2 Record
Team 7, 8, and 9 are razor thin in my eyes.
Team 7 lost 2 games to un ranked opponents, but has 4 top 25 wins.

Team 8.
10-2 Record
Team 8 and 9 have essentially the exact same resume barring minor differences.
Team 8 lost to Team 1 and Team 6 (both close losses). They have two top 25 wins.

Team 9.
10-2 Record
Only losses were to Team 1 and Team 6, just like Team 8. Only difference is Team 9 got destroyed by Team 1 by 40 points. Team 9 also has 2 top 25 wins, but they have more winning record wins than Team 8. So from one standpoint Team 8 has the better losses because they were close games but you could argue Team 9 has a better schedule with more winning record wins.

Basically in my eyes Team 1-6 are in. But Teams 7, 8, and 9 is a discussion... Team 7 has more top 25 wins with 4... But Team 7 also has 2 un ranked losses... Teams 8 and 9 basically have the exact same resume with 2 great losses but only 2 top 25 wins each.

So do I leave out Team 8 or 9? When they basically have the same resume? That wouldn’t be fair to one of them? Or do I say to Team 7 there 4 top 25 wins aren’t enough to overcome there 2 bad losses?

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hardcor2 11-11-2019 02:46 AM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
I'd say no to team 9. The blowout loss is too much to overcome for me.

bigbad25 11-11-2019 05:04 AM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
I would vote to leave out team 7. Losing twice to unranked teams is more unexcusable than losing by 40 to a playoff team.

sherrane 11-11-2019 09:51 AM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbad25 (Post 2049963679)
I would vote to leave out team 7. Losing twice to unranked teams is more unexcusable than losing by 40 to a playoff team.


This is my thinking as well, although I'd examine the ESPN -> Championship Contenders (?) to get the actual ranking of the unranked losses. If the unranked teams were 26--35 they'd be in the received votes category and might be ranked in the final poll. If one or more is ~50 or lower, then these losses are bad ones for a playoff team.

nofx94 11-11-2019 12:32 PM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
I'd leave out nine. Less valuable wins and blown out in the loss.

DonJonpin 11-11-2019 01:00 PM

Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
I did some more digging...

Team 5’s best win is actually only against the 40th ranked team at 7-5. The rest of their wins are teams ranked under 60. Is there a possibility we could leave out a 12-0 Team 5? Their strength of record is very weak.


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nofx94 11-11-2019 02:09 PM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
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Originally Posted by DonJonpin (Post 2049963836)
I did some more digging...

Team 5’s best win is actually only against the 40th ranked team at 7-5. The rest of their wins are teams ranked under 60. Is there a possibility we could leave out a 12-0 Team 5? Their strength of record is very weak.


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It's your dynasty, so you can. But if I saw a playoff in real life that left out a 12-0 mid major in favor of multiple two-loss P5 teams, I'd think it defeated the purpose of the expanded field. It's hard to go undefeated under any circumstances and I think it should be rewarded. But again, it's your playoff.

DonJonpin 11-11-2019 02:41 PM

Re: Help Me Seed My 8 Team Playoff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx94 (Post 2049963882)
It's your dynasty, so you can. But if I saw a playoff in real life that left out a 12-0 mid major in favor of multiple two-loss P5 teams, I'd think it defeated the purpose of the expanded field. It's hard to go undefeated under any circumstances and I think it should be rewarded. But again, it's your playoff.



True that.


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