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Kushmir 12-15-2019 11:55 AM

2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
While the PNR has improved over the course of the series it still has a ways to go. It would be nice to see it fleshed out properly during the next generation. Recently the interaction made actually made WORSE:

1. Defenders die on screens far too often. This is where we need to see the variety between Poor, Average, Good and Elite defenders but going forward screens can't be as OP as they are currently. We need more interactions where a screen doesn't generate an advantage.

It can be especially broken when combined with the idiocy of help defense in the game--you literally have pick/roll ball-handlers getting to the rim (gotta love how clueless Horford is below and how Embiid prioritizes the non-shooting Capela instead of crashing down [emoji849])

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FACT: I wont play another 2K game with Help Defense this INEPT.

2. We need a no-switching option in the future--the AI defenders switch almost as a rule and very often when its unnecessary and it gameplay still can't handle it. Very often a switch will leave a player completely open as no one picks him up.

3. Over/Under Screens - I'm not even sure why this option is in the game and its far too important to be placebo. I won't play another 2K game where our AI defenders don't follow this very simple/necessary strategy.

4. Catch Hedge - Here again. Why are these options in the game if they don't work? This is another deal-breaker for me going forward, watch Embiid completely ignore the play call and let Chandler get behind him. #YouHadOneJob

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Simmons is rated 88 Perimeter D. That a simple jab step still makes defenders wig out with PNR Defense is RIDICULOUS. This is a legacy issue at this stage. AI defenders going under screens vs shooters when we specify the opposite? NO WAY.

jk31 12-16-2019 05:44 AM

Re: 2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
Just looking at your first video, the defense you played was not better than what horford showed.
You are more than 1 pass away from the ball, means you are the first help defender. Yet you deny the weakside corner instead of challenging the layup.

Kushmir 12-16-2019 08:13 AM

Re: 2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jk31 (Post 2049988451)
Just looking at your first video, the defense you played was not better than what horford showed.
You are more than 1 pass away from the ball, means you are the first help defender. Yet you deny the weakside corner instead of challenging the layup.

Because help is broken I play Gap/Leave Him on all bigs (even shooting ones) so Embiid/Horford help instead of us leaving shooters open. Embiid should crash down.

We're in Catch Hedge. The big (Horford) is supposed to play No Mans Land and prioritize the paint--the open shot is Sefolosha's pop. Not a drive to the rim.

Kushmir 12-16-2019 09:39 AM

Re: 2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
More mind-numbing stupidity from the AI. 3pt game....we're going over the top of all Harden screens, atleast thats what I specified in the coaching menu. [emoji849]

Luckily the user doesn't pull up--but of course Embiid wants to prove he's dumber than JRich and he lets Capela get behind him when they run it again, even though we're playing Catch Hedge. *facepalm*

I won't play another 2K game with broken mechanics like these. The AI literally did everything wrong in this defensive sequence, which is made worse by the fact that it did the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I instructed in the coaching menu.

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Kushmir 12-17-2019 02:39 PM

Re: 2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jk31 (Post 2049988451)
Just looking at your first video, the defense you played was not better than what horford showed.
You are more than 1 pass away from the ball, means you are the first help defender. Yet you deny the weakside corner instead of challenging the layup.

Got it. Curious: Who's the help guy here?

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ItchyNscratchy 12-17-2019 09:28 PM

Re: 2K Next Gen: Pick/Roll Interaction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushmir (Post 2049989379)
Got it. Curious: Who's the help guy here?

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Lol whoever using giannis and trying to attempt steal 96 feet away is the culprit here but the Center should’ve stepped up


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