Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

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  • Good Grappler
    Pro
    • May 2018
    • 615

    #1

    Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

    Aside from just shooting a double or single leg - we all know how to do that - I’m wondering what sort of tactics players have been using to get fights to the ground. Particularly in a competitive atmosphere, when your opponent knows it’s coming.

    Is there a specific sequence or tactic you use to get fights to the ground? Whether it be from the clinch, against cage, pulling guard, or a shoot TD... please share your tactic here. It would be cool to get a solid list of tactics in this thread.

    List the entire sequence, starting from standing. Name the positions, and buttons you press too, if possible.


    For example, if this thread was about UFC 3, here would be a few examples of “sequences” to get fights to the ground (aside from the obvious single/double leg):

    - Land a rear punch, then go for the over/under clinch entry. Once in the clinch, take a sidestep by pushing up or down on the LS. Then go for a hip toss.

    - Fake a double leg, then shoot a double leg

    - Push your opponent backwards, then go for an immediate single leg
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  • johnmangala
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4525

    #2
    Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

    Grab a single under against the cage then go to their back, take backpack, finally go down for a RNC.

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    • Falseperception
      Rookie
      • Jan 2018
      • 236

      #3
      Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

      Originally posted by johnmangala
      Grab a single under against the cage then go to their back, take backpack, finally go down for a RNC.
      What are the button inputs for this? taking the back and backpack specifically. last thing I haven't figured out

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      • johnmangala
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4525

        #4
        Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

        Originally posted by Falseperception
        What are the button inputs for this? taking the back and backpack specifically. last thing I haven't figured out
        From single under against the cage you flick up or down depending on which arm is underhooked to take the back. Then R1+Triangle for backpack. I think r1+triangle or L2 + triangle for RNC.

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        • Evil97
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1099

          #5
          Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

          The pull guard and sweep to mount from over under.
          -Check to see if the fighter has it in "Takedowns" "BJJ/Judo Takdowns".
          -Shoot for double leg and cancel it with RT to take over under.
          -Use RB and Y (orthodox) to pull the guy down and flip him to take full mount.

          This seems like it wouldn't work well because the opponent is likely going to be holding the triggers as to deny the takedown you cancelled, but they actually have to let go of the triggers and re-apply them once the clinch is initiated for the takedown deny in the clinch to register.

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          • DrawkD2
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 43

            #6
            Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

            Big overhand right to power double leg.

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            • rabbitfistssaipailo
              MVP
              • Nov 2017
              • 1625

              #7
              Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

              Slip incoming strike , clinch to over under , trip.

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              • 1212headkick
                Banned
                • Mar 2018
                • 1823

                #8
                Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                6 months down the line well still be complaining about how takedown and clinch defense is too strong. Because it is. Just run.

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                • DCowboys22
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 365

                  #9
                  Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                  Shoot double leg, cancel it. Push to cage, Hip Toss


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                  • RetractedMonkey
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 1624

                    #10
                    Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                    Bail on a TD into OU, hit a two piece head hook combo. No one blocks this. They are surprised and worried about the takedown.

                    Eventually they start blocking the head, you can then go for a takedown of your choice (or throw a free body knee if you want to strike).

                    Works like a charm and undoubtedly the easiest set up for takedowns.

                    Establish a pattern, use your opponent’s own pattern recognition against them. It’s a strategy as old as time.


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                    • rabbitfistssaipailo
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 1625

                      #11
                      Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                      Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                      Bail on a TD into OU, hit a two piece head hook combo. No one blocks this. They are surprised and worried about the takedown.

                      Eventually they start blocking the head, you can then go for a takedown of your choice (or throw a free body knee if you want to strike).

                      Works like a charm and undoubtedly the easiest set up for takedowns.

                      Establish a pattern, use your opponent’s own pattern recognition against them. It’s a strategy as old as time.


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                      Wait so doing a hook in over Under takes you out of over under so you can strike , like breaking off the clinch ?

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                      • Find_the_Door
                        Nogueira connoisseur
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4051

                        #12
                        Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                        Simple just initiate clinch - throw a strike to the head and wait for them to block.

                        Then take them down once their hand comes up
                        Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                        • RetractedMonkey
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 1624

                          #13
                          Re: Good tactics for taking the fight to the ground?

                          Originally posted by rabbitfistssaipailo
                          Wait so doing a hook in over Under takes you out of over under so you can strike , like breaking off the clinch ?

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                          Yes, any strike instantly breaks it when you’re in DOM OU.


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