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  • zten11
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    • Oct 2011
    • 2383

    #1

    Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

    Madden is, has always been, and always will be one of the most hyped video game titles. We all heard about it from a young age, whether at elementary school, just paying attention to online media/newspapers, or just being introduced by a family that is passionate about football.

    I turned just 11 years old in 2004. That's when Michael Vick was the cover boy of Madden. That's about the same time people started getting pissed off when the opponent would unfairly use their scrambling QB, who was of course, Mike Vick. Vick was like the only player you could use to that type of advantage. Now it's like half of the league's QBs.

    Madden has improved dramatically in the last 15-20 years. But how could it not? As time passes, the barriers of technology are no more and the creators of Madden are able to implement things like: the hit stick/truck stick, QB playcalling vision, superstar X-factors, and you name it (etc. etc.)

    I thought Madden 21 was pretty damn good myself. I had skipped out on quite a few Madden games over the previous decade. I did get 20, however, and liked it. Madden 21 I liked even better. I think this year's game was a fairly strong indicator of the positive momentum the Madden series should continue to pick up throughout the next 3-5 years.

    For all of the pros and cons this game had, I thought it has slowly developed into a pretty good football experience, and that's especially as graphics/player movement/player contact has gone.

    Simply put, I'm just bored of Madden. There are other games I enjoy more and those are games involving topics that don't interest me anywhere near the way football does.

    I think for people like myself though, it's just that I was never really infatuated with Madden to begin with. I know there are a lot of people like this out there.

    I'm speaking more of the people that never truly LOVED Madden football...because I know there are also too many of us that have gotten sick of it, that once did love the game more than anything.

    I'm not one of those people. How would you describe your journey with Madden as it comes to a close?
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  • prey2god
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1471

    #2
    Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

    Sound like you just grew out of it. I'm 42 and been playing Madden since 94. You would appreciate it more if you played from those games till now.

    It's not perfect, but it's improving. There were different teams involved throughout the years just like with QBs dealing with carousel of coaches, Madden dealt with carousel of teams. Setbacks will happen and only time will tell.

    Besides, there are no other NFL games. As the saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

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    • jfsolo
      Live Action, please?
      • May 2003
      • 12965

      #3
      Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

      I wish the OS forums had the functionality that is on some other forums now, where you can instantly put a thread on ignore. It takes two seconds to click and it can't be gone from your brain in a flash. Instead you have to see a nonsensical thread like this every time you come in the Madden forum for quite a while. Yes I'm keeping it on the front page by posting in it, but because I can't immediately render it invisible, the inanity of it's very existence compels me to comment on it. I need that modern software to save me from posting in terrible threads.
      Jordan Mychal Lemos
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      Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

      Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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      • TexasLASFan
        Banned
        • Oct 2018
        • 452

        #4
        Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

        Madden isn't the same like it used to be 10 years ago im glad we still got ncaa football around

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        • PVarck31
          Moderator
          • Jan 2003
          • 16869

          #5
          Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

          Originally posted by TexasLASFan
          Madden isn't the same like it used to be 10 years ago im glad we still got ncaa football around

          Sent from my SM-G960U using Operation Sports mobile app
          Madden was trash 10 years ago. Madden on the 360 and PS3 was a disaster. Improvements were so incremental that it wasn't even worth buying the next one.

          Madden 10 was ok, 11 took a huge step back, but 12 was the best of that generation. Other than that, to put it nicely, it was pretty bad.

          Once we got to PS4 and XB1, improvements were starting to get more noticeable year over year. 17 introduced much better WR/DB play. 18, 19, were decent. And 21 was pretty good.

          The only thing the last gen was lacking was realistic locomotion. They never seemed to be able to get it right.

          Now with Madden 21 on PS5 and XSX, the player movement is astronomically better than last gen. In short, Madden 21 on PS5 and XSX is the best Madden since the PS2/Xbox days, and I think it's even better. Which is just my opinion.

          Yes, there are many things that need improvement. The on-field gameplay is at a point where they can keep making refinements to make it better as we move on this new generation. With them now focusing on Franchise mode, I expect the game to get to a high quality level within the next few years.

          I feel like not only are they on the right path, but it's finally leading to an end of that path where the game will be universally praised. The renewed focus on gameplay and franchise mode is leading us down a great path going forward.

          But in the end, if you don't like Madden that's fine. Some people will never like it no matter what they do, and that's ok. If you haven't played next-gen Madden, I highly recommend you do before writing the game off. Especially after the first patch that fixed DB play.

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          • TexasLASFan
            Banned
            • Oct 2018
            • 452

            #6
            Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

            Originally posted by PVarck31
            Madden was trash 10 years ago. Madden on the 360 and PS3 was a disaster. Improvements were so incremental that it wasn't even worth buying the next one.

            Madden 10 was ok, 11 took a huge step back, but 12 was the best of that generation. Other than that, to put it nicely, it was pretty bad.

            Once we got to PS4 and XB1, improvements were starting to get more noticeable year over year. 17 introduced much better WR/DB play. 18, 19, were decent. And 21 was pretty good.

            The only thing the last gen was lacking was realistic locomotion. They never seemed to be able to get it right.

            Now with Madden 21 on PS5 and XSX, the player movement is astronomically better than last gen. In short, Madden 21 on PS5 and XSX is the best Madden since the PS2/Xbox days, and I think it's even better. Which is just my opinion.

            Yes, there are many things that need improvement. The on-field gameplay is at a point where they can keep making refinements to make it better as we move on this new generation. With them now focusing on Franchise mode, I expect the game to get to a high quality level within the next few years.

            I feel like not only are they on the right path, but it's finally leading to an end of that path where the game will be universally praised. The renewed focus on gameplay and franchise mode is leading us down a great path going forward.

            But in the end, if you don't like Madden that's fine. Some people will never like it no matter what they do, and that's ok. If you haven't played next-gen Madden, I highly recommend you do before writing the game off. Especially after the first patch that fixed DB play.
            Hell no madden 12 was the worst ever madden 11 was the best imo madden 20 was the 2nd worst having LBs jumping in mid air catching balls Madden 21 was a huge increase other than that it aint better than the old generation of madden football hell to top it off ncaa 14 is the best football game alive atm

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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #7
              Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

              Originally posted by TexasLASFan
              Hell no madden 12 was the worst ever madden 11 was the best imo madden 20 was the 2nd worst having LBs jumping in mid air catching balls Madden 21 was a huge increase other than that it aint better than the old generation of madden football hell to top it off ncaa 14 is the best football game alive atm

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              Why was Madden 12 the worst Madden ever? I think most would agree it had the best Franchise mode of the whole generation. Are you talking about gameplay? I think most would agree that 12 was pretty damn good. But you're entitled to your opinion.

              However, I do agree that NCAA 14 was the best NCAA game ever. And in the top 10 of football games of all time.

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              • NYJin2011tm
                MVP
                • Oct 2011
                • 2768

                #8
                Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                LOL people either loved 12 or hated it. Personally it’s one of my most played Maddens. It’s a shame they didn’t build on that franchise mode with today’s improvements in gameplay. I hate all that XP stuff.

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                • Hunkerdown
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5418

                  #9
                  Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                  I am having the most fun with madden in a while on AM, after the plethora of patches have made it a roller coaster ride. I must say, never understood why people need to announce such things? Its okay if you like or dislike madden. Just a video game. Not the end of the world.

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                  • baconbits11
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2623

                    #10
                    Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                    Originally posted by zten11
                    Madden has improved dramatically in the last 15-20 years. But how could it not? As time passes, the barriers of technology are no more and the creators of Madden are able to implement things like: the hit stick/truck stick, QB playcalling vision, superstar X-factors, and you name it (etc. etc.)
                    Funny how the things you mentioned were put in during the PS2 days. The only technological advance since then has been the graphics. The X-Factors were also there during PS2 just called something else. That's what EA loves to do, take out features and readd them as something else later. Vision Cone is coming next.

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                    • simbayless
                      MVP
                      • May 2011
                      • 2055

                      #11
                      Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                      Madden 12 was the only madden that I didn't even have to play on all madden because All pro was realistic challenging and the games were random

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                      • TarHeelPhenom
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7123

                        #12
                        Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                        Madden was the first NFL game I ever played on a console back when I had the Sega Genesis. I've always loved and been a fan of Madden. I think my love for it was heightened when I had the NCAA Football series to go along with it. It was like tradition for me. The NCAA game would come out in July-August, and then Madden would come out a month later. By the time Madden would drop, I would have several draft classes ready to import. I would play NCAA on Saturday and Madden on Sunday to go along with what was going on in real life.

                        Also, me and my best friends would all get together and play in Franchise Mode. We controlled every game, no CPU involved. That made for some very intense, highly competitive games...at times that had us not speaking for a couple of days in order to cool down lol.

                        I'm 45, so I'm form the era where EA placed most of it's emphasis on Franchise Mode. It's why I still play the oldies to this day...especially with having the PCSX2 out there enhancing the graphics. They catered to guys like me during that time. I can say that at one point, I was an EA fanboy lol. I didn't like 2k nearly as much in those days as I did Madden.

                        I think where things began to turn for me was when EA discontinued making the NCAA series. It just wasn't the same anymore. Playing Madden wasn't the same. Couple that with the fact that they were taking the game in a different direction, no longer placing an emphasis on Franchise Mode...it hasn't been the same since. I don't know if it'll ever be the same again. Mix in life's responsibilities, getting older and not being apart of EA's current target audience and my best days as an EA gamer are behind me. I haven't called it quits with them completely just yet. But, I can see that happening in the future.
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                        • D13
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 611

                          #13
                          Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                          they need to do away with the XP systems and go back to end of year progressions/regressions. things started to get whacky when they introduced the XP upgrade systems.

                          also need to go get rid of all the animations built into this game. its ruining the all around gameplay experience for many.

                          ive recently purchased a ps2 and bought 04,05,06,07,08 and plan on playing those for any type of decent franchise feel.

                          madden has gotten away from its "real" base it built in the 90's and 2000's. Franchise needs a complete overhaul.

                          the guys here defending 20 and 21's trash that EA tried to put out is damn near sickening.....
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                          • RogueHominid
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10903

                            #14
                            Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                            I understand the sentiment of the OP, which I think is an expression of frustration at Madden's non-linear development trajectory, and I've certainly been critical of this game on multiple points myself.

                            That said, to be fair and balanced, I'd say that M21 gets a lot of things right. They're working on playbooks & authenticity and the distinctiveness of different teams. The improved contract demands are HUGE for franchise play. The draft classes are well done for the most part and offer good long-term playability in franchise mode. The graphics and lighting are good. The way SS and XF work this year is good and better than M20.

                            There's stuff I'd like to see in the game that's not, and there are things I'd change about development if I had the power to do so, but I do think this is the best Madden I've played, for what it's worth.

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                            • TarHeelPhenom
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 7123

                              #15
                              Re: Saying Goodbye: The "I'm Officially Done with Madden" Thread

                              Originally posted by baconbits11
                              Funny how the things you mentioned were put in during the PS2 days. The only technological advance since then has been the graphics. The X-Factors were also there during PS2 just called something else. That's what EA loves to do, take out features and readd them as something else later. Vision Cone is coming next.
                              08 has something called Player Weapons. Is that what you're thinking of?
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