Unbalanced + distance

[diogomn]

Fix the distance. No one can roundhousekick somebody when they are RIGHT in front of you, no space in between.. that’s ridiculous..

Give us tools to defend against pressure fighters.. the way it is right now is like someone who has been pllaying +200 fights will still have a hard time even if a 5 year old fights you like a pressure fighter..

[diogomn]

Re: Unbalanced + distance

Srsly you guys, only the hard fan base will want to play online, because its so f hard and annoying.. and it takes so much to lear

[Granbyroll]

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Do you know how the ranges work in this game? The damage is muffled. And if you hit them with punches while they're kicking in boxing range its a rock. Your not pulling the trigger.

[Pedro_Guap]

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Do you know how the ranges work in this game? The damage is muffled. And if you hit them with punches while they're kicking in boxing range its a rock. Your not pulling the trigger.

You are more susceptible to rocks when kicking in boxing range. But the kick, should it land, still does too much damage (muffled or not) for being thrown at an impossibly close range.

This goes for calf kicks too. Meta is now to jab and flick the opposite-leg calf kicks. The calf kick is effective even if your chest to chest.

How many tools do offensive fighters need?

[UFCBlackbelt]

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I think Martial said it best, fighters in this game operate with a "Shield" in front of them essentially. They don't crash/clinch naturally, so the extent of your targeting from an offensive position is to ensure that you REACH your target, but its less of a concern as to whether you overcommit unless you throw a high-risk strike.

There is damage muffling to help mitigate this issue, but I just don't think its enough when you consider that most damage incurred results from combinations. So if I'm throwing a cross- lead hook - rear uppercut - lead hook. The extent of my concern is "am I going to be pull countered or am I going to be out of stamina"

I do not need to take account whether my opponent is moving toward me because of that "shield". If I did, I would find myself like Kevin Holland against Brunson, Clinch Exchanges.

[RetractedMonkey]

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You are more susceptible to rocks when kicking in boxing range. But the kick, should it land, still does too much damage (muffled or not) for being thrown at an impossibly close range.

This goes for calf kicks too. Meta is now to jab and flick the opposite-leg calf kicks. The calf kick is effective even if your chest to chest.

How many tools do offensive fighters need?

Correct on the body kicks. They don't do much body damage, but they do way too much stamina damage even when landed at clinch range and they cause a hitstun.

You couldn't be more wrong about calf kicks. You probably played one game where a guy calf kicked you and called it the meta. Almost no one throws leg kicks at all, let alone the ridiculous amount it would take to break down both your legs with rear calf kicks from clinch range.

Go into practice mode, look at the damage you do from close up or far away. You do about 4-6 damage (compared to 14 max) and are left open for a hook counter. I should know, leg kicking has been my gameplan for months now and I made a video on how to use them effectively. The rear calf kick is the only leg kick I don't use. At all. It's mid risk, low reward.

[RetractedMonkey]

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For anyone complaining about pressure still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCkk25S4N84

If Pryoxis can manage to snuff these guys in ranked (not elite by any stretch of the imagination, but they are probably even more advanced than the guys the people here complain about fighting - meaning you don't have to be a UFC god to do this) playing with Sean O'Malley (terrible health and cardio stats), imagine what you can achieve with a top level fighter like TJ or Yan.

This isn't magic. He just knows when to apply his strikes and what strikes to throw. Guess what? Outfighting is super hard to do in real life. Pressure fighting is a lot easier. It takes skill there, why shouldn't it in game? That's why you see all the good outfighters are technical, methodical strikers like Wonderboy and Israel.

You complain about people not using their brain and just coming forward and I think that says more about you than it does them. You don't have enough brain power to beat people not even thinking? Why don't you use your brain? It can be done at the highest level, so it can be done at the lowest level.

[diogomn]

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For anyone complaining about pressure still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCkk25S4N84

If Pryoxis can manage to snuff these guys in ranked (not elite by any stretch of the imagination, but they are probably even more advanced than the guys the people here complain about fighting - meaning you don't have to be a UFC god to do this) playing with Sean O'Malley (terrible health and cardio stats), imagine what you can achieve with a top level fighter like TJ or Yan.

This isn't magic. He just knows when to apply his strikes and what strikes to throw. Guess what? Outfighting is super hard to do in real life. Pressure fighting is a lot easier. It takes skill there, why shouldn't it in game? That's why you see all the good outfighters are technical, methodical strikers like Wonderboy and Israel.

You complain about people not using their brain and just coming forward and I think that says more about you than it does them. You don't have enough brain power to beat people not even thinking? Why don't you use your brain? It can be done at the highest level, so it can be done at the lowest level.

take a look, not just me - the guy that just "grabbed" the controller, as you said in another post, ( even tho I played ufc 1, 3 and a considerable amount of time of ufc 4)-


Look, it seems the great Pryoxis also deals with this bull****..
It's laughable, because you can see he is doing all the right things,

but gets demolished...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1XnQjOjLFY&t=439s

[tomitomitomi]

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take a look, not just me - the guy that just "grabbed" the controller, as you said in another post, ( even tho I played ufc 1, 3 and a considerable amount of time of ufc 4)-


Look, it seems the great Pryoxis also deals with this bull****..
It's laughable, because you can see he is doing all the right things,

but gets demolished...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1XnQjOjLFY&t=439s

Demolished? I dislike results-based analysis but he won that fight y'know. What are you talkin bout bro?

[diogomn]

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Demolished? I dislike results-based analysis but he won that fight y'know. What are you talkin bout bro?

See the link I’ve posted

[tomitomitomi]

Re: Unbalanced + distance

See the link I’ve posted

[diogomn]

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6:14 of the video.. he gets knocked out

[LarsP]

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I think the confusion stems from the fact you timestamped the video in the second fight, which he won.

[tomitomitomi]

Re: Unbalanced + distance

I think the confusion stems from the fact you timestamped the video in the second fight, which he won.

Thanks for clarifying it.

Demolish is still a poor way to describe it because the fight was very competitive and that's with Pryoxis using a sub-par character. Demolish would fit better if Pryoxis kept losing in the first round due to a vortex. That being said, the way both Conors played is obnoxious and anti-fun IMO. Even if it isn't particularly powerful at the highest levels it still makes for an unpleasant experience.

However, beginners and less experienced players are gonna struggle with pressure regardless because pressure is inherently better at lower skill levels. If you want to improve beginner experience then focus on proper tutorials and provide fun experiences outside of competitive play. If you've ever played any fighting games online (or in some other larger offline environment such as gatherings or arcades) you know there will be a rough transition period regardless that you cannot really prepare for.

[Evil97]

Re: Unbalanced + distance

It was also 2 months ago

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