Shouldn't sports games be a service?

[imdahman]

Rather than yearly releases shouldn't a sports game be a game as a service that is constantly being worked on? That way you'd have the entire player base playing one game, and you'd be able to develop one platform and tweak things as needed - and not have to 'reinvent' it for every year.

[stickyfingers]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

No, if you like me a 100% offline player, this model sucks.
You couldnt go back to a previous version and enjoy the specific gameplay and roster.

[Junior Moe]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

I don't like it for what I consider the major sports games like Madden, 2k and The Show. I want a new version to go along with the new rosters every year. I think it could work though for "lesser" titles like College Hoops or NCAA Football or PGA and UFC. Those titles dont sell 10 million plus copies a year so I could see it working out for both us as consumers and the publishers to make more money over the life of a game. For instance, I'd have no issue paying 50$ or 60$ for a huge update to NCAA Football that includes an updated roster and uniforms and gameplay additions.

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[NYJin2011tm]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Going live/online is what has ruined sports games for me as a offline gamer. Just my personal opinion for me.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Rather than yearly releases shouldn't a sports game be a game as a service that is constantly being worked on? That way you'd have the entire player base playing one game, and you'd be able to develop one platform and tweak things as needed - and not have to 'reinvent' it for every year.

The NBA disagrees.

[imdahman]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Do people not see the benefits? If you have a game as a service it can be constantly worked on... as in constant game improvements. when a new season rolls around, you just get a new roster to match. New uniforms? Update - and the game keeps a record of every year and every shirt.

New game mechanic to work on? Okay lets work on and when it's done we'll put it in the game in 3 months. Got a better idea? Okay now lets develop that and patch it into the game. The game would constantly be evolving. Got a brand new engine mechanic or animation to add? patch it into the game. New graphics update? Patch. It. In.


Maybe it's a monthly fee like a MMO? Maybe a bunch of optional purchases like a new season pack every year that will update team jerseys and rosters.

Then you can start talking about layers once the game is at a decent level... you can start adding other leagues like the ones in Europe and China, then you can add the GLeague and NCAA, and start working and constantly improving trading and GM AI.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

The theory sounds fine, but would never work due to the new animations, motion caption, mechanics, etc that happens every year...

[stickyfingers]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Do people not see the benefits? If you have a game as a service it can be constantly worked on... as in constant game improvements. when a new season rolls around, you just get a new roster to match. New uniforms? Update - and the game keeps a record of every year and every shirt.

New game mechanic to work on? Okay lets work on and when it's done we'll put it in the game in 3 months. Got a better idea? Okay now lets develop that and patch it into the game. The game would constantly be evolving. Got a brand new engine mechanic or animation to add? patch it into the game. New graphics update? Patch. It. In.


Maybe it's a monthly fee like a MMO? Maybe a bunch of optional purchases like a new season pack every year that will update team jerseys and rosters.

Then you can start talking about layers once the game is at a decent level... you can start adding other leagues like the ones in Europe and China, then you can add the GLeague and NCAA, and start working and constantly improving trading and GM AI.

Just imagine if GaaS started with 2K14.
2K15 i love the gameplay, but you would loose 2K14 gorgeous graphics (okay i lost it anyway as a PC player...)
2K16 (my favorite on this gen), improvment nothing to say
2K17 as worse game than the previous one
2K18 the worst game from this gen (i means you have to wait anoter update for playing NBA2K)

Fortunately, we can still play ALL those games (even 2K18 with the right sliders set)...
No thanx.

[yungmeaks]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

The theory sounds fine, but would never work due to the new animations, motion caption, mechanics, etc that happens every year...

I get where you're coming from, but it's crazy that the currently landscape of sports sims got you thinking that you need to pay $60 for another title to essentially get animation updates. That's crazy.

You can easily push these in a patch.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

I get where you're coming from, but it's crazy that the currently landscape of sports sims got you thinking that you need to pay $60 for another title to essentially get animation updates. That's crazy.

You can easily push these in a patch.

And the assumption that they can "easily push these in a patch" is based on what?

And please...don't try to turn this into a stupid "You've been brainwashed yadda yadda yadda" conversation. I want examples.

[imdahman]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Just imagine if GaaS started with 2K14.
2K15 i love the gameplay, but you would loose 2K14 gorgeous graphics (okay i lost it anyway as a PC player...)
2K16 (my favorite on this gen), improvment nothing to say
2K17 as worse game than the previous one
2K18 the worst game from this gen (i means you have to wait anoter update for playing NBA2K)

Fortunately, we can still play ALL those games (even 2K18 with the right sliders set)...
No thanx.

Okay... why would the Devs change a gameplay aspect that everyone likes? In a service model once the offense/defense/gameplay flow reached a peak it would not need major overhauls - only tweaks.

Now take ALL of the best elements from all those seperate games and put them into a single game. All the best features presist, and when a feature doesn't work? Develop and replace it with a new system.

[imdahman]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

And the assumption that they can "easily push these in a patch" is based on what?

And please...don't try to turn this into a stupid "You've been brainwashed yadda yadda yadda" conversation. I want examples.

The fact that World of Warcraft, every MMO and every service model game does this on a regular basis.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

The fact that World of Warcraft, every MMO and every service model game does this on a regular basis.

So they NEVER created new games for those MMO with new animations and game content that requires a "better" gaming system? People have been playing the MMO disc/download since 2010?

[Newlegacy]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

So they NEVER created new games for those MMO with new animations and game content that requires a "better" gaming system? People have been playing the MMO disc/download since 2010?

2004 but....yes lol. You may need a computer with more RAM, you may need an updated OS, but neither of those are as similar as needing a different console.

I really hope this isn't a genuine question.

There has been a belief for years that sports titles *could* go the route of mmos and now with GAAS being more of a thing, I understand why someone would wonder what if sports titles were built like that. And I'm not against it, I'd just be curious how it was executed in the long term.

[tru11]

Re: Shouldn't sports games be a service?

Comparing an mmo to a sports game 🤣

For the record the nba license requires a yearly release…




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