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Old 11-20-2008, 06:52 PM   #17
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Re: So long, Mussina

MOOSE MOOSE MOOSE SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!
Oh well, it was a good run having Mussina. I'm pretty sure he'll get in the HOF.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:12 PM   #18
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Re: So long, Mussina

I say he will, but not first ballot.

Getting 270 wins against the AL East your whole career is damn tough.

Great pitcher.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:16 PM   #19
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Even though I didn't watch it when it happend, I'll always remember Moose for his absolute gem in the '97 ALCS against the Indians. Pitched 8.2 scoreless and got no run support, then Benitez gives up a Tony Fernandez homer in extras and the Orioles lose. Dude deserved better.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:32 PM   #20
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To put up numbers like his in the AL during the height of the steroid era is pretty impressive. I doubt he's a first ballot HOF but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get in eventually.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:32 PM   #21
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He'll have to buy a ticket to get into the HOF.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:56 PM   #22
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Absolutely not. He's not a first-ballot HOF but he's a decent lock for the HOF. His stats in his respective era are surpassed by few.

Also, most writers already seem to be in favor of putting Moose in and I imagine that he'll get in in a few years after gaining eligibility.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:02 PM   #23
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One thing working against Moose is Bert Blyleven. They have similar numbers and Blyleven still isn't in the hall.
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One thing working against Moose is Bert Blyleven. They have similar numbers and Blyleven still isn't in the hall.
Yeah, I've heard people bring that up but different eras. You can't compare their numbers when Moose pitched through the heart of the "steroids era". Most writers seem to realize that and have admitted that he's probably a HOF from what I've read the last couple of weeks. 117 more wins than losses is hard to argue with, especially in the AL East.

Moose's era doesn't look as stellar as people already in the HOF but he compares quite nicely with his peers in his era. He finished in the top 10 of ERA 11 times in his career, only had one 20 win season but he had a bunch of 18 and 19 win seasons, including a season in the strike-shortened year where he probably would've gotten to 20.
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