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snepp · 12-01-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLetterZ


	For crying out loud, put Rock Raines in the Hall already!

+1

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Originally Posted by JJLinn


	I think Rice finally gets in.

Finally? That's assuming he belongs in the first place, which is highly questionable.

I have yet to read a pro-Rice argument that doesn't center around the phrase "he was feared."

mgoblue · 12-01-2008, 03:38 PM

Why Jack Morris is not in the HOF I'll never understand.

BunnyHardaway · 12-01-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp


	+1 Finally? That's assuming he belongs in the first place, which is highly questionable. I have yet to read a pro-Rice argument that doesn't center around the phrase "he was feared."

Not saying I agree with it, but he was so close last year, so I figure he'll get a few extra votes to put him over the hump considering it's his last year of eligibility.

snepp · 12-01-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JJLinn


	Not saying I agree with it, but he was so close last year, so I figure he'll get a few extra votes to put him over the hump considering it's his last year of eligibility.

Ah, nevermind then. I agree, he's too close now with too much momentum not to get over the hump this year.

snepp · 12-01-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mgoblue


	Why Jack Morris is not in the HOF I'll never understand.

Because he's patiently waiting for the voters to correct their mistake of ignoring Blyleven for all these years.

Though I think Morris comes up a little short, he's another guy that relies too heavily on anecdotes to cover up a lot of mediocrity in his numbers.

CMH · 12-01-2008, 04:11 PM

Henderson gets in without a doubt. Most complete leadoff hitter in the history of the game.

Rice probably gets in. Like already mentioned, he was close last year, and writers may decide to let him in now that it's his last year. Still, I have my doubts.

I would put Blyleven in there, finally, but with the way these voters are, I will assume some will leave him off because they wouldn't want Henderson, Rice, and Blyleven to get in together in one ballot.

Raines will probably have to wait till next year but he needs a lot of support because once Henderson gets in, he'll be compared and that could cost him in the future.

snepp · 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride


	Raines will probably have to wait till next year but he needs a lot of support because once Henderson gets in, he'll be compared and that could cost him in the future.

The flip side to this is if Rice gets in it could make it easier for Raines, because he *should* be viewed as the better player.

Similar career OPS+, superior defensive value, vastly superior value on the bases. Raines over Rice shouldn't even be a question, but unfortunately he wasn't "feared."

SPTO · 12-01-2008, 04:43 PM

My Ballot would look like this

Rickey (no doubter)
Jack Morris (This guy should be in the HOF by now damnit)
Jim Rice (he was so close last year. Most experts expect him to get in this year)
Harold Baines (Mr. Consistency, he was probably TOO consistent though)

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