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Stroehms · 12-01-2008, 07:31 PM

Greatest player not in HOF: Roger Maris

CMH · 12-01-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by snepp


	The flip side to this is if Rice gets in it could make it easier for Raines, because he should be viewed as the better player. Similar career OPS+, superior defensive value, vastly superior value on the bases. Raines over Rice shouldn't even be a question, but unfortunately he wasn't "feared."

The stupid "feared" comment in defense of Rice always makes me want to go postal on someone.

I don't mind if you post his decade numbers and say that's why he was a Hall of Famer. I can at least understand a person's argument there.

But, you're right, every writer in his defense always talks about how during a decade he was the most feared hitter in baseball.

Soon we'll be reading about Eckstein being a Hall of Famer because of his grit.

ProStylez · 12-01-2008, 09:21 PM

Greg Vaughn? LOL, I watched almost his whole career here in Milwaukee and other than striking out or hitting a homerun he did nothing.
Dan Pleasac, another former brewer good but no H.O.F.

bluengold34_OS · 12-01-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsforever


	I think Mattingly would have been a cinch if he hadn't run into injuries...his numbers in his prime were amazing, but he didn't do it long enough.

I know injuries hit him hard toward the latter part of his career, I will never understand how Don is not in. He had 222 HR's, 1100 rbi's, lifetime fld % of .993. He won 9 gold gloves, 3 Silver slugger awards and the MVP in 85( his best year in the Majors). Maybe I just think too much of "Donnie Baseball", but in my mind this guy is a hall of famer.

Stroehms · 12-01-2008, 09:52 PM

Btw, left off of this list of players up for election is the 2nd all-time saves leader, Lee Smith.

A definite Hall of Famer in my book.

bluengold34_OS · 12-01-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stroehmerbasebal


	Btw, left off of this list of players up for election is the 2nd all-time saves leader, Lee Smith. A definite Hall of Famer in my book.

Agreed...........

and as a lifetime Cub fan, would love to have Grace, Dawson and Smith in the Hall. It's not going to happen, but I would still love to see it.

Chip Douglass · 12-01-2008, 10:24 PM

Some of the names on this list are hilarious.

Ron Gant? Seriously?

Stroehms · 12-01-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Olson-for-Heisman


	Some of the names on this list are hilarious. Ron Gant? Seriously?

lol. He was decent.

12-01-2008, 07:31 PM	#25
Stroehms MVP OVR: 55 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Suburb of St. Louis Posts: 2,639	Re: HoF ballot released... Greatest player not in HOF: Roger Maris

12-01-2008, 09:21 PM	#27
ProStylez Goon Squad OVR: 15 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 1,989	Re: HoF ballot released... Greg Vaughn? LOL, I watched almost his whole career here in Milwaukee and other than striking out or hitting a homerun he did nothing. Dan Pleasac, another former brewer good but no H.O.F.

12-01-2008, 09:52 PM	#29
Stroehms MVP OVR: 55 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Suburb of St. Louis Posts: 2,639	Re: HoF ballot released... Btw, left off of this list of players up for election is the 2nd all-time saves leader, Lee Smith. A definite Hall of Famer in my book.

12-01-2008, 10:24 PM	#31
Chip Douglass Hall Of Fame OVR: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California Posts: 12,264	Re: HoF ballot released... Some of the names on this list are hilarious. Ron Gant? Seriously? __________________ I write things on the Internet.

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