NBA Video Rulebook / Traveling rule changed

[Tha_Kid]

http://www.nba.com/videorulebook/

Ever see a referee call a charge on a play you swore was a block? Or insist LeBron James took an extra step on his way to the rim?

If so, it's time to go to the videotape.

The NBA launched a video rulebook Thursday, a site where fans can watch clips of plays accompanied by explanations of the rules.

Stu Jackson, the league's executive vice president of basketball operations, said the rulebook, found at http://www.nba.com/videorulebook, would be "a place of reference for everyone with respect to how our games are officiated."

Also, the NBA has officially changed the rules on traveling this season.

NBA changes traveling rules

The NBA has put into writing a rule allowing players on the move to gather the ball, after driving or catching it, and then take two steps. Throughout NBA history, the rulebook said players could take one step.

[Stumbleweed]

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That's good they finally changed the rule to match how they've officiated it for quite a while now. Thanks for the heads-up on this...

[Air_Yeezy]

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I guess Lebron gets what Lebron wants. Crab dribble coming to an arena near you...LOL.

[ex carrabba fan]

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LBJ wins again.

First no hand shakes
Now you can crab dribble all over the damn court

[Tha_Kid]

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I don't know what to make of the travel rule... in theory, nothing should change since they have been calling it that way everywhere, just now is the first time "two steps after the dribble" has been explicitly stated. In reality, where one step was really two, how long before two becomes three, especially with that crab dribble mess.

The video rulebook? I'll definitely watch for reference but I doubt this sticks, like the ref show they had on NBA TV.

On a positive note, more transparency is always a good thing. Don't know if these are "post donaghy" steps or replacement ref steps, but this will let people know if they have a leg to stand on before the skewering of the replacement refs begins. Last nights snoozefest (Pistons / Mavs) had one sexy call where a ref killed a Mavs fastbreak to call a tech on Chris Wilcox (who wanted a foul on the other end). Lets hope the refs keep their blunders to stuff like that.

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What do they mean gather?

What you mean to tell me these bigger, stronger, more athletic, more skilled players can't even follow simple basketball rules?

They're always changing rules that either make no basketball sense, or something to cater to players who can't do it right.

[JBH3]

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What do they mean gather?

What you mean to tell me these bigger, stronger, more athletic, more skilled players can't even follow simple basketball rules?

They're always changing rules that either make no basketball sense, or something to cater to players who can't do it right.

You touch on a very good topic. We constantly hear how "today's" NBA player is bigger/stronger/faster than those that came before them. Which has some truth.

However, where do the basketball IQs of those who played w/ Russell, Cousy, West, and Robertson rank w/ today's NBA player?

I think there's a disparity between the two in both aspects, and each zero each other out.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Replacement Refs + Changing of Traveling Rule = And 1 Rules coming to an NBA Arena near you.

[PrOdIgY_4eVeR]

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I really don't understand why so many people exaggerate and say outrageous stuff like the NBA is being ruined, etc...

EVERYWHERE around the world a player gets 2 steps once he ends his dribble. Everywhere. Here in Europe, generally in FIBA basketball, on the playgrounds, etc. Everyone knows that you get 2 steps before a pass or a shot. It's like the most basic unwritten common knowledge in basketball. All this "rule change" (rule explanation really) did was explicitly state this. So please, don't go all doosmday scenarios because that's being ignorant.

[Brankles]

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So does this mean that if you're in the post, with your left foot as the pivot, you can step and plant with your right, then take another step with your left, then shoot the ball? Or is that three steps?

I've always been taught the pivot is one step and the other foot is the other step. Once you plant on the other foot and release your pivot, there's your two steps and you have to shoot or dribble.

[Jet Sufferer]

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The "old" rules were just fine. 2 1/2 steps were allowed, example, you catch the ball on the wing on a fast break, one of your feet is touching the ground when you catch it, you can take 2 steps.

The "modern" rules have ruined the game, the "hop step" is a joke, it essentially takes the tried and tested 2 1/2 steps and turns it into 4 1/2 steps, changing the sport from basketball to some sort of football hybrid game that I don't enjoy watching.

The palming and running with the ball makes no sense either.

The unfair calling of these rules is equally ridiculous, if a big man does the EXACT same move, since it doesn't look too nice the way he does it, it's traveling, if LeBron does it, I'm supposed to jump up and down with excitement.

Stern has ruined this league in so many ways it's not even funny, he was the beneficiary of Magic/Bird, he's done nothing for the game except to water down the talent too far with expansion, impose arbitrary rules depending on the players stature, and generous refereeing for big market/best storyline teams.

It was a far better product before Stern's "tinkering".

Anyone remember a few years ago when they were saying LeBron couldn't do it in the clutch? He made a game winning basket driving baseline in the playoffs and everyone was talking about it as his coming out party? The dude took like 5 steps without dribbling the ball, but all we heard about was how great it was, etc. I'm sitting there watching it like I'm a character in Alice In Wonderland, the dude CHOKED and forgot to dribble the freaking ball and we're celebrating this???

[Jet Sufferer]

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LeBron FIVE STEPS no traveling call.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di32bEogZpw

I found the "game winner" I mentioned in my previous post. Hop step, then PICKS UP HIS PIVOT FOOT and takes two more steps. I'm supposed to accept this as a fan? Just a mockery of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhbM6uuCt74&feature=related

I'm not just singling out LeBron, it's the league's fault for allowing the game to degenerate to this level.

Just put trampolines on the court and get it over with.

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Replacement Refs + Changing of Traveling Rule = And 1 Rules coming to an NBA Arena near you.

They"re already in the dunk contest this year...

[VDusen04]

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I really don't understand why so many people exaggerate and say outrageous stuff like the NBA is being ruined, etc...

EVERYWHERE around the world a player gets 2 steps once he ends his dribble. Everywhere. Here in Europe, generally in FIBA basketball, on the playgrounds, etc. Everyone knows that you get 2 steps before a pass or a shot. It's like the most basic unwritten common knowledge in basketball. All this "rule change" (rule explanation really) did was explicitly state this. So please, don't go all doosmday scenarios because that's being ignorant.

Actually, I agree with pretty much everything you said. It has always been two steps to me, everywhere. The "gather" part makes me want to see the video that corresponds but what I picture synchs up with what I consider a legal basketball maneuver.

NBA players get away with travelling on many occasions, but I'm not horrified by it. I do not think it's some kind of conspiracy. Decisions are made by human officials and calls are missed. I do not feel the game has come anywhere close to crossing that line into making it some kind of "Slam Ball" offshoot. That is, the rules are still 97% in check, and that works for me.

[Jet Sufferer]

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Actually, I agree with pretty much everything you said. It has always been two steps to me, everywhere. The "gather" part makes me want to see the video that corresponds but what I picture synchs up with what I consider a legal basketball maneuver.

NBA players get away with travelling on many occasions, but I'm not horrified by it. I do not think it's some kind of conspiracy. Decisions are made by human officials and calls are missed. I do not feel the game has come anywhere close to crossing that line into making it some kind of "Slam Ball" offshoot. That is, the rules are still 97% in check, and that works for me.

I'm fine with 2 steps and 2 1/2 steps, but the hop step has turned it into 4 steps and 4 1/2 steps, and pivot foot integrity is all but ignored. The game is nowhere near 97% of what it was in the traveling department. Watch some older games, the traveling, palming rules are totally different.

It started when Jordan first retired, the league was looking for more "spectacular" plays, now it's just totally out of control, they've changed the game in a big way for the worse.

10 years ago if you tried some of these moves even in a pick-up game guys would laugh at what an obvious travel it was and not even debate it. Look at those 2 LeBron videos above, the 2nd one was to win a playoff game. That's not basketball.