NBA 2k3: what VC need to fix

[italian_BBAL]

Hi!!!
I think VC must fix some thing to make this game a great one.
I don't know if someone else think taht too!!!!

1)add a broadcast cam like ESPN. This must be in NBA 2k4!!!!!
2)add the possibility to shoot with both foot on the ground, I'm bored to see big man take a jumper.
3)decrease the number of fadeaway jump taken by AI!!!!
I don't think that Dirk N. take 10 fadeway at game.
4)better player model and animation !!!
5)Make this game for PC!!!!!With an athlon XP + Geforce 4 they can develop the best version of NBA 2Kxxx ever relesead!!!!!!

Hi!!!

[Nivek]

Re: NBA 2k3: what VC need to fix

I think u mean NBA 2k4

[wwharton]

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2)add the possibility to shoot with both foot on the ground, I'm bored to see big man take a jumper.


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No one shoots without jumping unless they're on the foul line. Not even Oakley or Mason's set shots. And most players do shoot fade aways when contested on a jump shot.

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

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what i'd like to see changed?......

1. player assecories editor, Stockton should not be wearing BLACK sneakers while with Utah, and Ron Mercer is STILL wearing a red arm band with Indiana

2. get rid of all the pre-determined dribble moves. add combo move like in LIVE 2000, i hate making ia move to the hole and the cpu decides t give me this stupid drunk dribbling move were the guy weaves left/right w/o getting anywhere

3.1. animations are stiff as hell. players still run like a stick is up there butts. and the dunks in this years game totally suck! i popped in last years game for the DC and was amazzed at how strong and graceful the dunks were.

3.2. MORE F#UCKING PLAYS!!!! this was the barn-burner for me. only 25 plays! my highschool team has more than that. the worst part is the AI players CAN"T run them! they'll just stand there. each play takes 3-5 second to execute.

4. give the Big men some power. gesh! if Shaq can't back down Iverson....

[Graphik]

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I agree with 2-4, they fix those problems I'll be set.
they do run like the are bumper cars controled by the wire thingy on the cieling. just plain jerkey. and the post up game defetnitly needs work.
The sneaker thing is a diffent story, I'm just happy that they wear diffrent shoes.

[wwharton]

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2. get rid of all the pre-determined dribble moves. add combo move like in LIVE 2000, i hate making ia move to the hole and the cpu decides t give me this stupid drunk dribbling move were the guy weaves left/right w/o getting anywhere


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I actually have no problem with this move and you can actually figure out why/when it makes you do it. My problem is the speed of it. It's so obvious that it's predetermined. It's not a smooth move at all. The same with the fake one way go the other from the post. Don't know how they revamp everything and leave these two in there.

As for the plays, I think VC took a universal approach in trying to mirror actual teams and how they play. This is great for football. They just watch a bunch of tape and put together the plays that the actual teams run, or as close to them as they can tell. This doesn't work so well in basketball b/c plays are just templates to get an open shot. Many times players see an opening outside of the play. There are also sets that look similar and each set has a bunch of different plays so it'd be almost impossible to watch an NBA game and make up plays. I know that Live has used some real plays for YEARS now...I wonder if they are indeed team specific (besides the well publicized triangle offense) and if so, how they got them (VC should be wondering this, not me).

[TigerKnee]

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1. The pass bobbling. That crap needs to stop. Maybe if a sorry person throws a no look pass then yes. Bobble. But if you're getting a pass from a guard or someone that's looking straight at you, there's no need to bobble.

2. Please allow us to be able to pass to a person WHILE THEY'RE running. I want to be able to choose if they stop to catch a pass or to keep running and catch it.

3. Make the animations more fluid.

4. Missed layups and close shots occur like once a game or two. Not 10 times a game. Fix that as well.

5. Not everyone knows how to shoot a hookshot. When posting, allow us to fade away with a shot. Jumphooks look ridiculous when guards do it.

6. Have the PC play more aggresively on offense. Have them hoist more threes.

That's all I can think of for now..

[MT_Nuts]

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Sam Perkins (Mavs, Lakers, Sonics, Pacers) shot all his shots with both feet planted firmly on the floor every time.
Bill Cartwright (Knicks, Bulls, Sonics) had a tendancy not to jump on 15 footers either.

[Court_vision]

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Agree with everything you say. More plays needed + need to break the play when required...ID2003 has it so that, if you leave Big Dog, Pierce etc unguarded at the 3 point line...they hoist up a three. 2K3 they only do it sporadically.

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4. Missed layups and close shots occur like once a game or two. Not 10 times a game. Fix that as well.

5. Not everyone knows how to shoot a hookshot. When posting, allow us to fade away with a shot. Jumphooks look ridiculous when guards do it.

6. Have the PC play more aggresively on offense. Have them hoist more threes.

[ADW]

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Concerning the plays of NBA 2K3 from what I can tell most of the plays in the playbooks are actual NBA plays. I worked as an Intern Video Coordinator for the Memphis Grizzlies last year and my job was to record every game being played every night of the NBA season on NBA League Pass and help out with drawing the various sets that teams were running and then I'd pass them along to my boss who in turn would pass it along to the coaching staff. Also, on a daily basis I'd receive faxes from our scouts on the road with our upcoming opponent's favorite sets and plays. I have tons of NBA plays and notebooks, and video tapes. I know in the Grizzlies playbook from last year we had 91 offensive plays.

As mentioned in an earlier post it's harder to recreate basketball plays vs football plays. One reason is that a basketball play can be initiated from any spot on the court and the players are usually in different positions each trip down. Football is easier, because every one is set at the line of scrimmage before a play begins. Also, in the NBA every play has options built into it that a player can take advantage of depending on how the defense is playing it.

What I would like to VC do a better job of is in the playbook manager show diagrams of how the plays should be run. I'd like to see how a play is run before I add it into the offense during a timeout/

[wwharton]

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ADW, you actually can see the play in action, just not during the game. I don't know why they changed that and that would be a GREAT help if they put it back. The diagrams could be better too. Plays are usually parts of sets. They should list the set and show the different options off of it...these options should happen automatically depending on where the ball is passed or how the defense is playing.

And as for Perkins and Big Bill you gotta dig back pretty far for tape on those too...and even then I'm sure you'll see that their feet leave the floor. Probably not more than an inch or two but they do jump. Personally I'd like to see more player specific shooting styles but the players do jump.

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1. The pass bobbling. That crap needs to stop. Maybe if a sorry person throws a no look pass then yes. Bobble. But if you're getting a pass from a guard or someone that's looking straight at you, there's no need to bobble.

2. Please allow us to be able to pass to a person WHILE THEY'RE running. I want to be able to choose if they stop to catch a pass or to keep running and catch it.

3. Make the animations more fluid.

4. Missed layups and close shots occur like once a game or two. Not 10 times a game. Fix that as well.

5. Not everyone knows how to shoot a hookshot. When posting, allow us to fade away with a shot. Jumphooks look ridiculous when guards do it.

6. Have the PC play more aggresively on offense. Have them hoist more threes.

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The pass bobbling animation could be better and they should lose some of those balls (or drop them at least) but it needs to be there. If you're seeing the animation you're making a bad pass. If you pass from one sideline to the other with a bunch of defenders in the middle that's a bad pass. If you pass out of a shot, nine times out of ten it's a bad pass.

As for passing while running, try using the right analog stick or direct passing.

Missed layups and close shots occur far more often than you may think. If they didn't teams would be shooting 70% a game in the NBA.

Everyone does know how to shoot a hook shot...hell you can shoot a hook shot if you try. Whether they take it or not is a different story and I don't see too many guards taking it on me. You must be making them shoot hooks yourself.

If you adjust the sliders the CPU will shoot more threes but I agree 100% about them needing to be more aggressive.

[Steve_OS]

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If you want to be heard, you guys need to use our Wishlist Forum for this.

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