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Old 01-26-2012, 01:27 PM   #17
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In a league where one guy can change everything, it is unacceptable to be below .500.
Name these "one guys" that have changed everything, and brought one of the worse teams in the league to a team above .500 all by themselves.
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #18
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well the cleveland team that lost 26 STRAIGHT last year was missing only 2 players from the previous year ilgauskas an that guy who went to miami lol... in fairness to love though minnesota is 8 & 10 so far this year an "4 of their losses have been in the last 60 seconds of their games" (quoting tim legler)
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Old 01-26-2012, 01:52 PM   #19
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well the cleveland team that lost 26 STRAIGHT last year was missing only 2 players from the previous year ilgauskas an that guy who went to miami lol... in fairness to love though minnesota is 8 & 10 so far this year an "4 of their losses have been in the last 60 seconds of their games" (quoting tim legler)
Should've clarified as I do believe the player that facilitates the offense can turn a team around all by themselves. However for a guy who doesn't bring the ball upcourt, I'd say Love is making as big of an impact as anybody can.

anyway sorry to get off topic, this is supposed to be about aldridge...

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Name these "one guys" that have changed everything, and brought one of the worse teams in the league to a team above .500 all by themselves.
Lebron, MJ, D Wade, Carmelo Anthony,

Guys that don't bring the ball up
Shaq, Kevin Garnett

Love's team record since arriving in Minnesota
08-09 24-58
09-10 15-67
10-11 17-65
11-12 Incomplete

Sorry but by all logic if your the best your team shouldn't get worse
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:25 PM   #21
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well the cleveland team that lost 26 STRAIGHT last year was missing only 2 players from the previous year ilgauskas an that guy who went to miami lol... in fairness to love though minnesota is 8 & 10 so far this year an "4 of their losses have been in the last 60 seconds of their games" (quoting tim legler)
I hate when analyst say that garbage. 3 months from now when the season is over no one says well we are 12-54 but 13 of those losses came in the last minute of the game.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:13 PM   #22
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Lebron, MJ, D Wade, Carmelo Anthony,

Guys that don't bring the ball up
Shaq, Kevin Garnett

Love's team record since arriving in Minnesota
08-09 24-58
09-10 15-67
10-11 17-65
11-12 Incomplete

Sorry but by all logic if your the best your team shouldn't get worse
You mean the same KG that went 33-49 and 32-50 his last two seasons with the Wolves. That's less than .500 and a long way away from the playoffs. His team also got worse three years in a row as well.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:16 PM   #23
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You're also not taking into account

a) Kevin Love didn't really start until 1 year ago

b) They had a horrible coach in Kurt Rambis.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:37 PM   #24
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Lebron, MJ, D Wade, Carmelo Anthony,

Guys that don't bring the ball up
Shaq, Kevin Garnett

Love's team record since arriving in Minnesota
08-09 24-58
09-10 15-67
10-11 17-65
11-12 Incomplete

Sorry but by all logic if your the best your team shouldn't get worse
Garnett's Minny didn't make it over .500 until Starbury arrived. Jordan's bulls never made over .500 until pippen arrived. Melo's first year was the same year the Nuggets added Andre Miller to facilitate their offense. Lebron's Cavs didn't make it over .500 until Varejao and Gooden arrived. Wade came to the heat the same year Odom arrived, and Odom did better than wade did.

Shaq is an exception as he's a physical specimen that only comes along every so often. But for the rest of your list, none of them turned their team around by themselves.


Edit: To be honest though, I do think Love & Blake are getting more hype due to their sparkly new point guards. Guys like Millsap and Bosh should be in the discussion as well.

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