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Old 11-07-2017, 11:39 AM   #57
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They need shooting and a more consistent big man than they needed a guy like Bledsoe. But they added some talent and Monroe hasn’t been a good fit for them anyways.


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Not sure I really agree with that. I think the fit issues with Monroe have always been overstated.

The first two years with him on the team:
2015-16: +4.2 net rating per 100 possessions
2016-17: +6.9 net rating per 100 possessions
Playoffs: +13.1 net rating per 100 possessions

He was basically exactly as advertised for us; he was probably our 2nd or 3rd best player these past couple years. He got off to a really poor start this season though and then got hurt on top of it. And as an expiring contract, it made sense to package him for an upgrade.

The Bucks could desperately use a rebounder/defender at C, but the impact that Bledsoe can potentially make is huge. Nobody on the Bucks is very good at creating in half-court; Giannis is alright, but the rest require at minimum a ball-screen to get anything done. Bledsoe gives them a guy that can create something out of nothing. He also takes a load off Middleton; allowing him to return to more of a spot-up/curl off off-ball screens kind of role offensively and save some of his energy for defense.

On top of that, he's a gigantic upgrade athletically speaking and his presence will allow Kidd to potentially get creative with rotations. He now has 3 legitimate options as the guys that can run the 2nd unit if he staggers minutes correctly. He can throw out a small-ball lineup of Bledsoe, Brogdon, Snell, Middleton, and Giannis if he wants to get really funky (and eventually, Jabari too).

My hope is that we'll turn around and flip Delly (paying him $9 mil to be our 3rd string PG now) and Henson or Teletovic for a big man that can give us some rebounding and defense. Not saying these guys are available for that kind of package, but someone like Tristan Thompson, Nerlens Noel, maybe Bismack Biyombo...someone in that template is probably available at low-cost. I think a Delly-Henson for Tristan swap in particular could make sense for Cleveland. Henson and Delly would both be upgrades defensively and Delly could provide shooting that Rose/Wade are simply incapable of.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:52 PM   #58
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More detail on the draft picks being moved:

2nd round pick going to Phoenix is top 47 protected.

1st round pick is protected for the following:
2018: 1-10 and 17-30
2019: 1-3 and 17-30
2020: 1-7
2021: Unprotected

So most likely, they'll get the pick in 2020, but they could possibly get it before that.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:02 PM   #59
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I wonder why the league/owners want to keep draft pick protections around?


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Old 11-07-2017, 01:06 PM   #60
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More detail on the draft picks being moved:

2nd round pick going to Phoenix is top 47 protected.

1st round pick is protected for the following:
2018: 1-10 and 17-30
2019: 1-3 and 17-30
2020: 1-7
2021: Unprotected

So most likely, they'll get the pick in 2020, but they could possibly get it before that.
At first I thought it was a bad deal for MIL but now seeing the protections plus dumping Monroe, it's a homerun.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:20 PM   #61
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I wonder why the league/owners want to keep draft pick protections around?


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I wondering the same thing.

Mini-LeBron and Unicorn 1 or 2 (depends).

Excited for Eric new place. I hope he can shoot it well. I wonder what this does for the Bucks in terms of line up. Do you bench The President? Probably Tony Snell goes to the bench. And the Prez plays a small 3.


THe only thing I don't like about this trade is Bucks lose a off the bench scorer/rebounder. Which is tough. What I'd really like to see happen is Maker start getting some serious minutes. He's some much things could happen to his game.

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At first I thought it was a bad deal for MIL but now seeing the protections plus dumping Monroe, it's a homerun.
Yup thought the same thing
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:23 PM   #62
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Yea I love the trade for the Bucks now that the 1st is so protected. Now lets see if they can make another trade for a big off the bench.

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I wondering the same thing.

Mini-LeBron and Unicorn 1 or 2 (depends).

Excited for Eric new place. I hope he can shoot it well. I wonder what this does for the Bucks in terms of line up. Do you bench The President? Probably Tony Snell goes to the bench. And the Prez plays a small 3.


THe only thing I don't like about this trade is Bucks lose a off the bench scorer/rebounder. Which is tough. What I'd really like to see happen is Maker start getting some serious minutes. He's some much things could happen to his game.



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Old 11-07-2017, 01:51 PM   #63
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Love this trade.

Good luck to Moose.
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Old 11-07-2017, 02:21 PM   #64
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Does PHX plan on keeping Monroe?

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