2/26 - 3/4 Games Discussion Thread

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Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

One of these days we’re going to have an honest conversation about the FO because most of the problems have started from the top and worked their way down to the team. Like I said, they’ll hire Kidd or maybe even Mark Jackson(lets be real here, it’s going to be a retread and the options out there are nothing to brag about)and the same issues will exist. It ain’t like you’ve been proposing many options. You mentioned Shaw but didn’t really explain why or how he would be any different.

I said that but nobody says a word even though Magic has done a horrible job in the front office.

All these lebron fans are out there telling Luke fire luke but wont acknowledge what led up to this.

Like i said, they miss the playoffs, Jeanie owes Jim Buss an apology

[cima]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

It ain’t like you’ve been proposing many options. You mentioned Shaw but didn’t really explain why or how he would be any different.

A different voice can make all the difference (see Blatt to Lue in 2016) and going with Shaw at the point the season was at when I proposed it was safer and more viable than a complete overhaul. I wasn't proposing him necessarily as the long-term solution. With how things have turned out this season though, it's highly unlikely Shaw could've been any worse than Luke has been.

Luke just misses basic things. Ingram, LeBron, and to a lesser extent Kuzma are the only guys who can create their own buckets. Luke will sit 2 or all 3 of them together at times and run a Rondo, Lance, KCP, Bullock, Muscala lineup or whatever garbage he ran the other day. He doesn't play to strengths, he doesn't have creative offensive sets. He doesn't know how to stagger minutes, he's been playing Bron and Ingram just about the entire 1st and 3rd quarters lately.

Or lately he's gone back to small ball with Kuzma at the 5, which didn't work early in the season, so don't know why he thinks it will work now. Kuzma having to bang around with 5's worsens his offensive output.

But like you said, a lot of the problems are just the roster itself. Regardless, he doesn't put the roster he has into the best position to succeed either.

[lilteapot]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

I said that but nobody says a word even though Magic has done a horrible job in the front office. All these lebron fans are out there telling Luke fire luke but wont acknowledge what led up to this. Like i said, they miss the playoffs, Jeanie owes Jim Buss an apology

Yeah Magic has been a complete disaster aside from signing Lebron. Nonsensical trades, absurd offseason signings, poorly constructing a team around Lebron,missing out on marquee free agents, and the awful way the AD trade talks were managed (although that might be more on Rich Paul than anything)

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Quote: Originally Posted by lilteapot

Yeah Magic has been a complete disaster aside from signing Lebron. Nonsensical trades, absurd offseason signings, poorly constructing a team around Lebron,missing out on marquee free agents, and the awful way the AD trade talks were managed (although that might be more on Rich Paul than anything)

Honestly he didnt even do any work to make that happen. Everyone thought Jerry West was hating when he said as much but he was right.

Luke is expected to be fired this summer of course, after the entire plan changed on him and he had to deal with the dust of the failed trade rumors.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Shoot, why would anybody trust him to get an upgrade in the coaching hire? He’s done nothing worthy of praise since he got there.

We credit Ingram for his game improving and developing(so far)same with Kuzma and with Ball(on the defensive end but he wasn’t drafted to be a rich man’s Tony Allen)but wasn’t the reason Walton was hired was so he could help the develop the young talent? If so, he’s done his part on this end.

Who says the next coach will put an emphasis on developing young talent? So far, it’s looking like Magic overplayed his hand since he’s been in charge because if his name was Melvin Johnson, he’d be gone too.

[areobee401]

Magic had nothing to do with signing LeBron. Lakers could have hired me and LeBron would still have gone to LA.

[The 24th Letter]

Regarding Byrie-

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The Celtics locker room is quiet. Seemingly every night, according to reports. The chemistry problems are evident on the court, particularly defensively, as the Celtics have dropped 5-of-6 out of the All-Star break. The issues may start with the guy at the top of the pecking order,*Kyrie Irving,*according to Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer. Sources around the team told me that Irving’s persona has changed, too: He’s become disengaged and detached from those around the team. There is talk that Irving’s friendships on the team start and end with Tatum, with whom he shares an agent. Two sources peg Irving’s change in demeanor to early February, around the time he was asked about the possibility of joining the New York Knicks next season. That’s when Irving infamously said he’d make the best decision for his family and that*he didn’t “owe anybody s***.”

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Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Shoot, why would anybody trust him to get an upgrade in the coaching hire? He’s done nothing worthy of praise since he got there. We credit Ingram for his game improving and developing(so far)same with Kuzma and with Ball(on the defensive end but he wasn’t drafted to be a rich man’s Tony Allen)but wasn’t the reason Walton was hired was so he could help the develop the young talent? If so, he’s done his part on this end. Who says the next coach will put an emphasis on developing young talent? So far, it’s looking like Magic overplayed his hand since he’s been in charge because if his name was Melvin Johnson, he’d be gone too.

Luke wont get credit for developing anyone even though he did, but I guess the Lakers hate development but are quick to call people trash.

Don't forget Randle was coming along as well