The Official "Black Monday" Thread

[J0nnD0ugh]

Quote: Originally Posted by boomhauertjs

I think that's a fluke and is not what is needed in Cleveland. Looking back at the Browns coaches in my lifetime, they were all first time NFL head coaches, and only Marty was successful. The lack of discipline on the team means that they require a head coach who's going to hold his players accountable, unlike the Big Brown Teddy Bear. They also need a coach who's going to hire an experienced and competent staff, unlike the one Romeo had.

You don't need to have experience in order to be more demanding. What you need is a front office that backs the coach.

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by boomhauertjs

I think that's a fluke and is not what is needed in Cleveland. Looking back at the Browns coaches in my lifetime, they were all first time NFL head coaches, and only Marty was successful. The lack of discipline on the team means that they require a head coach who's going to hold his players accountable, unlike the Big Brown Teddy Bear. They also need a coach who's going to hire an experienced and competent staff, unlike the one Romeo had.

Sam Rutigliano wasn't successful? I assume you were born before he was eventually axed in '84.

[boomhauertjs]

You can say Sam was reasonably successful, though I don't remember much of his era. Even including everyone since Marty was a rookie coach who was ultimately let go:
Bud Carson - made the AFC Championship first season, but was 3-13 the next.
Belicheat - one playoff season in 4 years.
Chris Palmer - probably should've been given more time.
Butch - one playoff season with mostly players that he didn't chose.
Romeo - one playoff near miss and an 0-8 record against Pittsburgh.

[Eton Rifles]

If Pioli gets hired in Cleveland don't be surprised to see Josh Mcdaniel as the head coach.

[mgoblue]

Quote: Originally Posted by Eton Rifles

If Pioli gets hired in Cleveland don't be surprised to see Josh Mcdaniel as the head coach.

Or maybe Pioli will hire Mangini and they'll complete the circle of New England guys?

[joshuar9476]

don't forget that dungy might be done after this year, though on his own accord. plus, we supposedly already have our coach in the wings (why couldn't they make a run for cowher? would he really turn down a job with the colts?).

[Eton Rifles]

Mangini may have trouble even getting a job in the NFL if the rumors are true about him being the person who outed Belicheck about spygate. Also, don't be surprised to see Romeo back in NE as a coach.

[wwharton]

I seriously don't understand the obsession with Cowher. Good coach, no doubt, but nearly good enough that every fan who wants a new coach throws his name out there when hasn't made any indication that he wants to come back next year, if at all. With the way the Colts have been run since Dungy's been there, promoting internally and continuing business as usual makes a whole lot more sense to me.