Pat White, QB or Not QB in NFL?

[N51_rob]

I stated this in another thread about Pat White. Nothing from the Senior Bowl has changed my perception of his at the next level.

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

If a team were to play Pat White at the QB position he IMO would have to land in a Sennaca Wallace type situation (3rd QB for 2 seasons, then 2nd while staying in the same offense. Wallace knows the Seattle WCO as well as Holmgren and Hasselback.) The run heavy spread that WVU ran did nothing to help prepare him for the quick reads that will be required of him at the next level. I don't want to get into a big thing about his accuracy, but I will say that in the games that I saw I didn't see him hit his guys in stride as much as I would've liked. He will have a very steep learning curve at the next level. He is IMO a major project at the QB position at the next level. Very little of what I saw from him in the past 3 seasons say NFL quarterback to me. I do wish him all the best and would love to be wrong about him, but I just don't see it.

[MassNole]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

Charlie Ward comes to mind.

That is insulting to Charlie Ward, Pat White is no where near his level. Charlie Ward took the stance that if he was not a First Round pick then he was going to play in the NBA. NFL teams were still worried that if he was a First Round pick he'd still go to the NBA so no one bit, and from there it would have been a wasted pick.

[tmulk]

Quote: Originally Posted by MassNole

That is insulting to Charlie Ward, Pat White is no where near his level. Charlie Ward took the stance that if he was not a First Round pick then he was going to play in the NBA. NFL teams were still worried that if he was a First Round pick he'd still go to the NBA so no one bit, and from there it would have been a wasted pick.

True. Charlie Ward was seen as a top 15 pick at the time, but he publicly said his love was basketball, and was never considered. Charlie Ward was a beast.

[MassNole]

Quote: Originally Posted by tmulk

True. Charlie Ward was seen as a top 15 pick at the time, but he publicly said his love was basketball, and was never considered. Charlie Ward was a beast.

And at that time the Bo Jackson saga was still fresh in team's memories, no one wanted to potentially waste a first round pick for the player to never sign.

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Maybe Marcus Vick. Michael Vick was one of the best prospects of all time. He easily had the highest "potential" coming out of school of any NFL player ever, and aside from maybe Lebron, any sports player I've heard of.

I'd take Marcus Vick at QB over White actually. Marcus had head problems. If his head was screwed on straight he could've been a decent QB, but that's beside the point really. I'm not saying that Marcus is/was a better QB that White, but White's potential as a WR is MUCH greater than Marcus. It'd be a waste to put him at QB. As others have said he can get on the field right away and excel at other positions while it'd take a loooong time for him to even get a real shot at starting QB, if ever.

[Seminoles912]

I hate it when these type of guys are not even given the chance to play QB. I understand teams have taken the risk and got burned but I think alot of these guys would be good in the right system ala Michael Vick.

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Seminoles912

I hate it when these type of guys are not even given the chance to play QB. I understand teams have taken the risk and got burned but I think alot of these guys would be good in the right system ala Michael Vick.

In todays win now NFL you don't have the time to take a chance on a player like Pat White (unless you play in New England) and have it not pan out. Look at the Titans. If that team didn't have Collins there this year they would've been sunk and either the GM or the Coach would've more than likely lost their job.

Pat White is a project at QB. If you are gonna take a project at QB you damn well better have a starter in place who can win you enough game to keep working on your project, especially at the QB position. You get more margin for error if you take him as a WR and it doesn't work out because there are cases where it has worked. You look at QB's like White and there is an pattern of it not working out. That is why at this point you take White as a QB and you the GM have put your self out there to fall on the sword if it doesn't work.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Determination and work ethic aren't going to make a quarterback in the NFL. If he's intent on playing quarterback, I see 2 years on the practice squad and then whatever minor league is hot at that time.

Basically.

Quote: Originally Posted by Exonerated

Agreed. Wtf is 'pro style'. My style is 'giving my team the best chance to win'. i dont care if my qb scrambles all game and completes 0 passes as long as he wins the game. I rather him, than a pocket passer that goes 16/33 and loses. the NFL is stubborn that way. "oh this guy is good, he won the heisman, ridiculous stats, oops he's 6'0 180 pds, and has an average arm, better sign that 6'2 220 pd, backup thats never played a snap since highschool". An Pat White wants to play quarterback not pocket-passer-back. Quarterbacks can pass, run, heck catch the ball. I don't see why the NFL coaches restrict them to just throwing the ball.

He can always go to Canada or the AFL if he wants to remain in a Spread Offense. Otherwise, playing in a Spread Offense for your whole College career does nothing to prepare him for the NFL because all it's doing is hiding his flaws, which would be bound to start popping up eventually in the NFL.