crazy leinart and young could be on the outs with there team

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by TwelveozPlaya21

How is 06-07: 51.5 %, 2,199 yds, 6.2 avg, 12 tds 13 ints 07-08: 62.3 % 2,546 yds, 6.7 avg, 9 tds 17 ints has taken 53 sacks, 22 fumbles(6 lost). really ain't making a impact, very below from that.

06-07 Without VY: 0-3
06-07 With VY: 8-5

Good enough for me. I don't know, I like guys that win. I don't care what anyone says about "oh it was his team that won, not him" VY has had a knack for leading winning teams.

[CW McGraw]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Favre isn't even a top 3 quarterback during his NFL years (top 5 if you include years played before Favre hit the league)

I never said he was good. Hell, in that Favre topic, he didn't crack my top 10. But he's a sports hero straight from a movie.

[Primerica]

I think VY still has potential, he getting a lot better.
Leinhart needs to retire. If he does not care then quit taking a roster spot.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

06-07 Without VY: 0-3 06-07 With VY: 8-5 Good enough for me. I don't know, I like guys that win. I don't care what anyone says about "oh it was his team that won, not him" VY has had a knack for leading winning teams.

How the titans do last year without VY?? I Forget can you refresh my memory lol.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Primerica

I think VY still has potential, he getting a lot better. Leinhart needs to retire. If he does not care then quit taking a roster spot.

How's he getting better lol, he still locks onto his goto guy then if he is covered he runs he doesn't look for other options, he looks bigger this year then ever. still a weak arm.

[WeLLWeLL]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

When comparing VY or Leinart, I think it's pretty clear that the better pick was... Mario Williams

Hindsight is always 20/20.

[steelcurtain311]

Vince Young is an awful QB. People can say that "He's still learning" line all they want. They said the same crap about Vick, and he never learned how to legitimately play the position. Why? Because he wanted to run. Just like VY does. I don't care how many all purpose yards you have as a QB, you're supposed to throw the ball, or you'll never win anything. Guys like VY will never beat great NFL defenses, they just won't. Eventually you have to throw, and he can't.

[Nza]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelcurtain311

Vince Young is an awful QB. People can say that "He's still learning" line all they want. They said the same crap about Vick, and he never learned how to legitimately play the position. Why? Because he wanted to run. Just like VY does. I don't care how many all purpose yards you have as a QB, you're supposed to throw the ball, or you'll never win anything. Guys like VY will never beat great NFL defenses, they just won't. Eventually you have to throw, and he can't.

People have got to stop looking at past players and portraying their careers onto current players. What has Michael Vick got to do with anything? Is there some universal force preventing Vince from developing as a passer because Vick didn't?

Vince hasn't even started 32 games, i.e. 2 seasons worth, yet. He IS still learning and developing. Doesn't matter how futile you think it is because of what a past player did, ultimately that is the reality.