Zach Thomas to retire...

[allBthere]

lol

you guys never want to let anyone in.

[Alliball]

Quote: Originally Posted by allBthere

did you watch games with him on TV? it was almost a sure bet he was involved in more tackles than anyone else on either team. in apf he'd have 'run reader' and 'wrap up' abilities among others. I think he's HOF before the last couple of years he was nailing it every year. pro-football refrence "fwiw" ranked him 51st overall in terms of value since 1950. btw on that site it claims tackles are official stats since '01. He was a tackle machine every game I saw him play.

Maybe I just don't know as much about football s you do, but what is the bolded part in reference to?

[wwharton]

Bolded part is talking about All Pro Football (the game that came after nfl2k5).

Thomas isn't retiring, he's rehabbing an injury. I think he said he'll be ready for the regular season (on the Chiefs now) but didn't look for a link.

[Vince]

is apf being referenced as a means to judge Thomas on his hof credentials?

lol

[Alliball]

So wait, the dude used a video game in order to strengthen an argument?

Then I'm sold. Just skip the 5 year waiting period and give him that one way ticket to Canton.

I also find it strange that profootballreference.com doesn't list tackles on it's stats page even though it's been an "official" stat since 2001.

[55]

Quote: Originally Posted by CW McGraw

He was always insanely underrated.

How the hell can a guy that was named first team All-Pro five times, second team All-Pro two times and voted to the Pro Bowl seven times even be close to insanely underrated?

Having said that, he was a very good, borderline great player for a long time but I don't know if I would vote him into the HoF. I wouldn't be upset if he got in, but I wouldn't be upset if he didn't either.

[Vince]

He was underrated in the sense that, he was probably always considered behind Urlacher, Lewis, Donnie Edwards...

[wwharton]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vince

is apf being referenced as a means to judge Thomas on his hof credentials? lol

Quote: Originally Posted by Alliball

So wait, the dude used a video game in order to strengthen an argument? Then I'm sold. Just skip the 5 year waiting period and give him that one way ticket to Canton. I also find it strange that profootballreference.com doesn't list tackles on it's stats page even though it's been an "official" stat since 2001.

I'm pretty sure it was just fodder. Like he could've instead said something like "If he was the only guy on defense he still would've made every tackle." I doubt it was meant to be taken into any consideration in actually judging Thomas.