Who Is Worse Than The Browns? - The Rams

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

Berry won't go number 1 and hopefully if a team is smart enough, nobody will choose him No. 1 overall or in the top 4 period.

Can you honestly say that 4 players in this draft are better than Eric Berry?

If so, please name them.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TheShizNo1

You seriously think the Bucs are worse than either of these two teams? You're joking right?

I sure hope he was. The Buccaneers might suck this year, but they are easily a better football team than the Browns, Rams and Chiefs. They are probably a little bit better than the Raiders, Panthers and Lions as well. Right now I'd say the closest team to the Bucs in overall terms of talent (or lack there of) is the Bills.

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Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

Can you honestly say that 4 players in this draft are better than Eric Berry? If so, please name them.

There aren't four players better than him this year but you just don't draft a defensive back that high. EVER.

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dislimb

There aren't four players better than him this year but you just don't draft a defensive back that high. EVER.

Conventional wisdom has never worked for the Browns. I don't care where you should draft someone, Eric Berry is a playmaker and is a top 3 player in this draft, probably the best. I want him on the Browns. Draft him #1 if need be.

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Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

Conventional wisdom has never worked for the Browns. I don't care where you should draft someone, Eric Berry is a playmaker and is a top 3 player in this draft, probably the best. I want him on the Browns. Draft him #1 if need be.

Since 1992 there has only been one defensive back taken in the top four picks of an NFL draft. That was in 1998 when the Raiders picked Charles Woodson fourth overall.

If the Browns end up with a top three pick in the draft next year (and I suspect they will) and draft Berry it would be a waste when they could easily trade down to four or lower, still get Berry, be able to pay him less money and get another draft pick pick.

Does that make sense?

[ExtremeGamer]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dislimb

I sure hope he was. The Buccaneers might suck this year, but they are easily a better football team than the Browns, Rams and Chiefs. They are probably a little bit better than the Raiders, Panthers and Lions as well. Right now I'd say the closest team to the Bucs in overall terms of talent (or lack there of) is the Bills.

You realize, your Bucs have only scored 6 more points than the Browns have, as well as only allowed 11 points less on defense.

It's not like these two teams are that much different.

Browns are awful, but so are St Louis, Kansas City, and Tampa.

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dislimb

Since 1992 there has only been one defensive back taken in the top four picks of an NFL draft. That was in 1998 when the Raiders picked Charles Woodson fourth overall. If the Browns end up with a top three pick in the draft next year (and I suspect they will) and draft Berry it would be a waste when they could easily trade down to four or lower, still get Berry, be able to pay him less money and get another draft pick pick. Does that make sense?

That's true.

On the other hand, it takes two to trade and I think Berry is the player they need.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ExtremeGamer

You realize, your Bucs have only scored 6 more points than the Browns have, as well as only allowed 11 points less on defense. It's not like these two teams are that much different.

That is one way too look at it, albeit a very cut and dry way. Another way to look at it is to look at the strengths and weaknesses of both teams and ask yourself, "If I were to start rebuilding a franchise today, which team would I choose?" To me the answer to that question is easily Tampa Bay.

Now, I have watched every down of football that both the Browns and the Buccaneers have played this season. Each team does have glaring weaknesses and each team also has a few good role players. Taking all of that out of the equation and just counting the obvious strengths of both teams, this is the way I see it.

All the Browns have going for them is Shaun Rogers, Josh Cribbs and the left side of their offensive line, namely Joe Thomas and Eric Steinbach. So, that adds up to a 30 year old 3-4 nose tackle, a kick return specialist and two very good offensive linemen.

The Bucs don't have too much going for them right now either, but they do have several pieces in place to field an awesome defense again in the very near future. Gaines Adams, Barrett Ruud, Aqib Talib and Tanard Jackson are all 26 and younger and are all better at their respective positions than any defensive player on the Browns besides 30 year old Shaun Rogers. The Bucs also have two very good offensive linemen in Davin Joseph and former Brown Jeff Faine. They also took quarterback Josh Freeman in the first round of the draft this year and while I personally don't think he'll be as good as advertised, we don't KNOW that yet. Unlike Brady Quinn who has already flamed out, Freeman COULD be something. We've also got a pretty good tight end when he's healthy, but I don't need to remind you about that.

To summarize:

Browns strengths: two very good offensive linemen, a dominant yet againg 3-4 nose tackle and a kick return specialist.

Buccaneers strengths: two very good offensive linemen, four very good defensive players under the age of 26, a Pro Bowl tight end and a first round QB with unknown potential.

Now, both teams are bad right now and that is not going to change any time this season, but I just don't see how anyone can say the not so distant future for the Buccaneers doesn't look much brighter than the not so distant future for the Browns.