Are the Chiefs becoming the 2000s Patriots?

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

Yeah I mean, they are the Chiefs...or as my KC friend calls them..The Chefs...LOL

Nah, Chefs are a good thing.

I've heard them called the "queefs". Now that accurately reflects their sputtering offense and their lack of toughness at the same time.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by WakeUnc2321

Brady was a nobody w/o Weis. The Chiefs have some talent in key places and the draft this year should help. Remember, the Pats went 5-11 in their 2000 season. I think with the coordinators the Chiefs have and w/a good eye like Pioli in as head man they have the eery potential to be this decade's Pats.

Well, Brady was a rookie in 2000, he only attempted 3 passes that year, and he didn't take over as the starter until the following year... so I don't understand how he could be classified as being a nobody without Weis. Actually, both he and Weis built their legacies together. I think we can safely say that Brady has been just fine without Weis, if not better in some ways...

However, I liked the Patriots offensive playcalling logic better when Weis was there, because, well, it was better. It was more sensible.

[Speedy]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

Well, Brady was a rookie in 2000, he only attempted 3 passes that year, and he didn't take over as the starter until the following year... so I don't understand how he could be classified as being a nobody without Weis. Actually, both he and Weis built their legacies together. I think we can safely say that Brady has been just fine without Weis, if not better in some ways... However, I liked the Patriots offensive playcalling logic better when Weis was there, because, well, it was better. It was more sensible.

Of course he's been fine w/o Weis; he learned the system and how to perform in it for nearly 5 years. Weis was OC for the Jets from 97-99...Testeverde arguable had his best year and Weis actually made Ray Lucas a decent QB during his tenure so you actually believe that it wouldn't have mattered who was OC when Brady came up in that '01 season?

[Evan_OS]

They go 8-8 at best next season. The Cheifs' defense just needs a totally new group. On offense Cassel pretty much sucks , and they're just going down hill. Doubt they even get 6 wins next year...

[lonewolf371]

Quote: Originally Posted by WakeUnc2321

Of course he's been fine w/o Weis; he learned the system and how to perform in it for nearly 5 years. Weis was OC for the Jets from 97-99...Testeverde arguable had his best year and Weis actually made Ray Lucas a decent QB during his tenure so you actually believe that it wouldn't have mattered who was OC when Brady came up in that '01 season?

Oh gosh I hate the system argument. If one system was better than all the others, every team in the NFL would use it. It was Brady.

[Schism 6]

Cassel played fine last year...

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by WakeUnc2321

Of course he's been fine w/o Weis; he learned the system and how to perform in it for nearly 5 years. Weis was OC for the Jets from 97-99...Testeverde arguable had his best year and Weis actually made Ray Lucas a decent QB during his tenure so you actually believe that it wouldn't have mattered who was OC when Brady came up in that '01 season?

I never said or even implied that...

You said Brady was nobody without Weis. I'm saying that they both built their legacies together. Weis has a long track record, we know that. But people don't remember Weis as an offensive guru because of what he did prior to the New England dynasty... they know him best because of the New England dynasty and what he did to help make it happen.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

Quote: Originally Posted by SPTO

Well I wasn't saying that they're the next dynasty. I'm saying they're up and coming and could be a very good team if all the pieces fall in place right.

It sounds like that. You compared them to the 2000s Patriots who were a dynasty.

I think it is really too early to tell. Hell any team in 5 years from now can turn things around and be good. Look at Arizona and Cincinnati.