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Old 02-08-2010, 09:31 PM   #73
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In the TIMES and New Yorker articles are stating the issue is not the major concussion that are the problem but the minor concussions that are adding up that are causing brain damage. There are comparing football collisions to low speed car accidents. I think the UNC allowed researchers to rig the helmet of players to find how many of those "low impact' car accidents happen to players. One player had 7 " low impact" car accidents meaning a car going 20 mph in one practice.
How do they know that these concussions are coming from contact on the line of scrimmage? How do they know this isn't happening with guys run-blocking to the second level, because I can see lineman with a few yards to get a head of steam going up against a linebacker causing some serious head injuries? And eliminating the 3-point stand won't do anything to stop the violent collisions at the second level.
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Slow the field down = less serious concussions.

Instead the NFL has made the game faster and faster....
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:32 PM   #75
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It can add up though. Alot of linemen I played college ball with complained of headaches and such. My head coach who played 16 seasons in the NFL was sharp as a knife for somebody his age, but he alluded that alot of his linemen buddies weren't. And that's at the D-1A college level.
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Slow the field down = less serious concussions.

Instead the NFL has made the game faster and faster....
How does one do that? It's not like they're playing on astroturf where everyone is getting a 20% speed burst due to the turf.

Maybe they need to play on a bigger field?
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See above.
Researchers have rigged helmets to quantify the impacts of hits to the helmet. Just watch the video a few post back by TIME magazine. The issues of what causing head injuries are becoming less and less debatable.
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How do they know that these concussions are coming from contact on the line of scrimmage? How do they know this isn't happening with guys run-blocking to the second level, because I can see lineman with a few yards to get a head of steam going up against a linebacker causing some serious head injuries? And eliminating the 3-point stand won't do anything to stop the violent collisions at the second level.
I think Goddell intends to eliminate it from defense as well. It's common sense why it's coming from contact on the line of scrimmage. Anytime a 300+ lb man slams into your head, it's going to make an impact. That's the whole point of the 3 point stance. To get low and generate momentum to drive your opponent back.

That said, the 3 pt stance is as apart of football as the forward pass or 6 men on the line of scrimmage. It's a terrible idea to get rid of it completely.
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I think Goddell intends to eliminate it from defense as well. It's common sense why it's coming from contact on the line of scrimmage. Anytime a 300+ lb man slams into your head, it's going to make an impact. That's the whole point of the 3 point stance. To get low and generate momentum to drive your opponent back.

That said, the 3 pt stance is as apart of football as the forward pass or 6 men on the line of scrimmage. It's a terrible idea to get rid of it completely.
I agree. The end of the 3 point stance will be the end of power football.
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Grunt I understand where you're coming from and I share your concerns BUT what Goodell is doing is kneejerk reactionary stuff. There's actually a new helmet being developed now that will help to reduce concussions. There's also a helmet that's being used in HS and some college teams where there's an instrument inside that will tell you EXACTLY when a player has a concussion so that he can be taken out of the game and evaluated medically.

When faced with something like this the best thing to do is to try to fix things while keeping the game as close to the way it is as you can. What the NFL is trying to do is to change the very fabric of the game rather then looking at alternative ways to make it safer. I'd understand some of the "chicken little" reactions if they tried alternative means to make the game safer and it hasn't done much. Instead they're just bypassing any chance to make the game safer through equipment and changing things just to make them look like they're doing something about it.

It's interesting, the NHL is doing little to make their game safer and better while the NFL is doing TOO much by stripping away what makes football as popular as it is rather then trying to look for other ways to make the game safer.
This whole post. SPTO has the pulse of the issue.

Also, you should consider who Goodell is married to. He has that same mindset as her employer: do whatever it takes to get ratings and jump on whatever popular bandwagon your critics are riding.

Oh, we have concussions? We are now the anti-concussion league. Oh we have players dog fighting? We are now the animal rights league. And so on.
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